Sen. Johnson Tears into ‘Big, Beautiful Bill’: ‘This Is Immoral What Us Old Farts Are Doing to Our Young People’

KERNEN So let s ░░░░░░░░ that you know you ░░░░░░░░ to your guns here ░░░░░░░░ at this point if ░░░░░░░░ characterize what you want ░░░░░░░░ do as a long ░░░░░░░░ is that overstating it ░░░░░░░░ mean I can see ░░░░░░░░ Thune Johnson No KERNEN ░░░░░░░░ Leader Thune it s ░░░░░░░░ a long shot Johnson ░░░░░░░░ it s not a ░░░░░░░░ shot because we have ░░░░░░░░ of us who are ░░░░░░░░ to say no Listen ░░░░░░░░ all KERNEN You do ░░░░░░░░ support the president We ░░░░░░░░ to see him succeed ░░░░░░░░ we want to see ░░░░░░░░ succeed You know we ░░░░░░░░ but again my loyalty ░░░░░░░░ to our kids and ░░░░░░░░ We re mortgaging their ░░░░░░░░ So there s enough ░░░░░░░░ us who have that ░░░░░░░░ that very respectfully we ░░░░░░░░ have to say Mr ░░░░░░░░ I m sorry One ░░░░░░░░ beautiful bill was not ░░░░░░░░ best idea We should ░░░░░░░░ done what John Thune ░░░░░░░░ wanted to do split ░░░░░░░░ up into multiple parts ░░░░░░░░ always said three parts ░░░░░░░░ said two Time s ░░░░░░░░ Now it s back ░░░░░░░░ to two parts uses ░░░░░░░░ two budget reconciliations but ░░░░░░░░ need to keep enough ░░░░░░░░ the table to force ░░░░░░░░ to come back here ░░░░░░░░ do the work take ░░░░░░░░ time to actually reduce ░░░░░░░░ to a reasonable level ░░░░░░░░ How would that even ░░░░░░░░ mean the Senate is ░░░░░░░░ to look at the ░░░░░░░░ version and the Senate ░░░░░░░░ going to do with ░░░░░░░░ own version It s ░░░░░░░░ s it just seems ░░░░░░░░ it s in motion ░░░░░░░░ And crosstalk Johnson Well ░░░░░░░░ KERNEN Go ahead Johnson ░░░░░░░░ so the president the ░░░░░░░░ Senate leadership has to ░░░░░░░░ that we re serious ░░░░░░░░ all say oh we ░░░░░░░░ pressure these guys No ░░░░░░░░ can t Again we ░░░░░░░░ we re being very ░░░░░░░░ You know I ran ░░░░░░░░ 2010 as part of ░░░░░░░░ Tea Party movement We ░░░░░░░░ mortgaging children s future ░░░░░░░░ were 14 trillion in ░░░░░░░░ then Now we re ░░░░░░░░ 37 trillion We re ░░░░░░░░ about this They need ░░░░░░░░ take us seriously Don ░░░░░░░░ insult us Work with ░░░░░░░░ Lay out the numbers ░░░░░░░░ you if you can ░░░░░░░░ that our numbers are ░░░░░░░░ fine let s work ░░░░░░░░ it But again every ░░░░░░░░ my every analysis I ░░░░░░░░ there s greater upside ░░░░░░░░ to that deficit Interest ░░░░░░░░ are moving up If ░░░░░░░░ go increase interest rates ░░░░░░░░ percent that s another ░░░░░░░░ trillion over 10 years ░░░░░░░░ terms of deficit If ░░░░░░░░ don t replace the ░░░░░░░░ trillion that s 4 ░░░░░░░░ of lost revenue again ░░░░░░░░ in growing the economy ░░░░░░░░ percent it adds to ░░░░░░░░ a little bit but ░░░░░░░░ in the out years ░░░░░░░░ again come to the ░░░░░░░░ Let s look at ░░░░░░░░ numbers If I m ░░░░░░░░ prove that I m ░░░░░░░░ but let s do ░░░░░░░░ with respect but mainly ░░░░░░░░ for our children and ░░░░░░░░ This is immoral what ░░░░░░░░ old farts are doing ░░░░░░░░ our young people This ░░░░░░░░ grotesque what we re ░░░░░░░░ We need to own ░░░░░░░░ to that This is ░░░░░░░░ moment I can t ░░░░░░░░ this scenario I can ░░░░░░░░ accept it So I ░░░░░░░░ t vote for it ░░░░░░░░ we are serious about ░░░░░░░░ it KERNEN And who ░░░░░░░░ you think OK Rand ░░░░░░░░ you it would still ░░░░░░░░ Who else are you ░░░░░░░░ Mike Lee KERNEN are ░░░░░░░░ talking Mike Lee who ░░░░░░░░ are you talking about ░░░░░░░░ Johnson Again I don ░░░░░░░░ want to speak for ░░░░░░░░ but yeah Mike Lee ░░░░░░░░ Your gang of five ░░░░░░░░ what was Johnson Rick ░░░░░░░░ We ve been I ░░░░░░░░ there are a lot ░░░░░░░░ there are a lot ░░░░░░░░ people that aren t ░░░░░░░░ vocal as as we ░░░░░░░░ that support what we ░░░░░░░░ doing And again they ░░░░░░░░ t dispute the numbers ░░░░░░░░ we didn t talk ░░░░░░░░ numbers in the in ░░░░░░░░ in the House process ░░░░░░░░ know if the White ░░░░░░░░ just comes and starts ░░░░░░░░ us I m sorry ░░░░░░░░ got the numbers to ░░░░░░░░ back myself up Again ░░░░░░░░ my numbers are wrong ░░░░░░░░ prove me wrong But ░░░░░░░░ think I have the ░░░░░░░░ which is I think ░░░░░░░░ of the reasons they ░░░░░░░░ won t insult me ░░░░░░░░ that’s good.”