MSNBC Security Analyst: ‘Pretty Obvious’ Boulder, Colorado Attack Is a ‘Terrorist Event, ‘We All Know About the War in Gaza’

MOHYELDIN Let s bring ░░░░░░░░ the conversation ATF Special ░░░░░░░░ Jim Cavanaugh who joins ░░░░░░░░ now Jim I m ░░░░░░░░ sure if you had ░░░░░░░░ chance to hear that ░░░░░░░░ briefing or that whole ░░░░░░░░ from the police chief ░░░░░░░░ certainly a very significant ░░░░░░░░ a very significant attack ░░░░░░░░ Boulder Colorado this afternoon ░░░░░░░░ Right You know I ░░░░░░░░ the press briefing The ░░░░░░░░ was trying to give ░░░░░░░░ some you know information ░░░░░░░░ have a one man ░░░░░░░░ custody it was a ░░░░░░░░ know an active you ░░░░░░░░ demonstration for hostages in ░░░░░░░░ so a pro Israeli ░░░░░░░░ for Israeli hostages and ░░░░░░░░ event was attacked apparently ░░░░░░░░ to the chief by ░░░░░░░░ man trying to set ░░░░░░░░ on fire You know ░░░░░░░░ re not clear whether ░░░░░░░░ were using Molotov cocktails ░░░░░░░░ s kind of a ░░░░░░░░ way to attack people ░░░░░░░░ fire by throwing incendiary ░░░░░░░░ on them and you ░░░░░░░░ breaking and lighting fires ░░░░░░░░ that may have been ░░░░░░░░ happened It s hard ░░░░░░░░ you know throw fire ░░░░░░░░ Molotov cocktail is usually ░░░░░░░░ device Multiple injuries as ░░░░░░░░ reported FBI making public ░░░░░░░░ that it s a ░░░░░░░░ event which you know ░░░░░░░░ is pretty obvious when ░░░░░░░░ have you know this ░░░░░░░░ side of the coin ░░░░░░░░ this world event We ░░░░░░░░ know about the war ░░░░░░░░ Gaza and the situation ░░░░░░░░ So FBI is going ░░░░░░░░ be heavy on that ░░░░░░░░ course we re going ░░░░░░░░ have ATF there as ░░░░░░░░ You re going to ░░░░░░░░ the state police and ░░░░░░░░ Boulder Police and they ░░░░░░░░ the man they have ░░░░░░░░ man in custody so ░░░░░░░░ know they re going ░░░░░░░░ make some progress here ░░░░░░░░ the prosecution They didn ░░░░░░░░ tell us about any ░░░░░░░░ weapons just yet so ░░░░░░░░ re gonna have to ░░░░░░░░ and see RAMPELL Jim ░░░░░░░░ common is it that ░░░░░░░░ FBI would declare something ░░░░░░░░ terror attack and the ░░░░░░░░ police department would say ░░░░░░░░ re not quite there ░░░░░░░░ I would have guessed ░░░░░░░░ they would be on ░░░░░░░░ same page before having ░░░░░░░░ press release or a ░░░░░░░░ conference CAVANAUGH Yeah well ░░░░░░░░ FBI is very reserved ░░░░░░░░ that because you know ░░░░░░░░ want to meet the ░░░░░░░░ of what is a ░░░░░░░░ a federal crime of ░░░░░░░░ And basically what it ░░░░░░░░ is it s someone ░░░░░░░░ intimidates or attacks someone ░░░░░░░░ the purpose to coerce ░░░░░░░░ civilian population or coerce ░░░░░░░░ government That s what ░░░░░░░░ needed for a charge ░░░░░░░░ terrorism And remember what ░░░░░░░░ re talking about here ░░░░░░░░ just a charge because ░░░░░░░░ know a Molotov cocktail ░░░░░░░░ against federal law That ░░░░░░░░ the law that ATF ░░░░░░░░ all the time So ░░░░░░░░ know it s against ░░░░░░░░ law to do that ░░░░░░░░ the motivation is to ░░░░░░░░ a civilian population or ░░░░░░░░ a government the conduct ░░░░░░░░ government then the charge ░░░░░░░░ terrorism can be levied ░░░░░░░░ the U S Attorney ░░░░░░░░ think the FBI is ░░░░░░░░ this because the nature ░░░░░░░░ the event you know ░░░░░░░░ s sort of obvious ░░░░░░░░ really looks like terrorism ░░░░░░░░ I would say they ░░░░░░░░ right about that The ░░░░░░░░ you know he s ░░░░░░░░ a person who deals ░░░░░░░░ with the federal statute ░░░░░░░░ he s you know ░░░░░░░░ s a little more ░░░░░░░░ on that But I ░░░░░░░░ t think there s ░░░░░░░░ to be any doubt ░░░░░░░░ they re going to ░░░░░░░░ in and say You ░░░░░░░░ we should investigate this ░░░░░░░░ a crime of terrorism ░░░░░░░░ I think they re ░░░░░░░░ right and I think ░░░░░░░░ will.”