Conyers Accuser Marion Brown: He Propositioned Me for Sex and Violated My Body

RUSH TRANSCRIPT GUTHRIE We ░░░░░░░░ now to another story ░░░░░░░░ right now Embattled congressman ░░░░░░░░ Conyers has been hospitalized ░░░░░░░░ Detroit for a stress ░░░░░░░░ illness A consultant for ░░░░░░░░ 88 year old Democrat ░░░░░░░░ blaming that stress on ░░░░░░░░ he calls quote media ░░░░░░░░ Conyers who is under ░░░░░░░░ by the Judiciary Committee ░░░░░░░░ facing allegations that he ░░░░░░░░ harassed multiple women who ░░░░░░░░ in his congressional office ░░░░░░░░ of those women Marion ░░░░░░░░ joined us exclusively earlier ░░░░░░░░ morning along with her ░░░░░░░░ Lisa Bloom It was ░░░░░░░░ first time that she ░░░░░░░░ spoken out and we ░░░░░░░░ by asking her how ░░░░░░░░ felt to be coming ░░░░░░░░ publicly clip starts BROWN ░░░░░░░░ is a sad day ░░░░░░░░ know I don t ░░░░░░░░ good but I feel ░░░░░░░░ and I feel purposeful ░░░░░░░░ I felt compelled to ░░░░░░░░ up and speak out ░░░░░░░░ be a voice behind ░░░░░░░░ know these allegations that ░░░░░░░░ made I want everyone ░░░░░░░░ know it was serious ░░░░░░░░ did it three years ░░░░░░░░ and Congressman Conyers came ░░░░░░░░ and called me a ░░░░░░░░ basically So I m ░░░░░░░░ to say that I ░░░░░░░░ not a liar GUTHRIE ░░░░░░░░ was a settlement that ░░░░░░░░ paid and that s ░░░░░░░░ revelation that came out ░░░░░░░░ s how it is ░░░░░░░░ people in the public ░░░░░░░░ aware that these allegations ░░░░░░░░ out there Can you ░░░░░░░░ me what you say ░░░░░░░░ Conyers did when you ░░░░░░░░ his employee BROWN Yes ░░░░░░░░ of the things he ░░░░░░░░ were it was sexual ░░░░░░░░ violating violating my body ░░░░░░░░ me inviting me to ░░░░░░░░ with the guise of ░░░░░░░░ business and then propositioning ░░░░░░░░ to you know for ░░░░░░░░ And he s just ░░░░░░░░ my body He has ░░░░░░░░ me in different ways ░░░░░░░░ was very uncomfortable and ░░░░░░░░ unprofessional GUTHRIE You describe ░░░░░░░░ course of conduct over ░░░░░░░░ 11 years that you ░░░░░░░░ for him In particular ░░░░░░░░ know there was a ░░░░░░░░ in 2005 you say ░░░░░░░░ were in a Chicago ░░░░░░░░ room Can you tell ░░░░░░░░ what happened BROWN Well ░░░░░░░░ was the same kind ░░░░░░░░ thing He invited me ░░░░░░░░ the hotel And he ░░░░░░░░ undressed you know down ░░░░░░░░ his underwear Again it ░░░░░░░░ the proposition of sexually ░░░░░░░░ him GUTHRIE He asked ░░░░░░░░ to do something sexually ░░░░░░░░ Yes He asked me ░░░░░░░░ satisfy him sexually He ░░░░░░░░ tos of genital areas ░░░░░░░░ his body and asked ░░░░░░░░ to you know touch ░░░░░░░░ GUTHRIE What did you ░░░░░░░░ in that moment BROWN ░░░░░░░░ was frozen shocked You ░░░░░░░░ I didn t know ░░░░░░░░ to do But one ░░░░░░░░ I didn t want ░░░░░░░░ lose my job I ░░░░░░░░ t want to upset ░░░░░░░░ And I just and ░░░░░░░░ he asked me to ░░░░░░░░ other people thatwould satisfy ░░░░░░░░ So I just tried ░░░░░░░░ escape I live in ░░░░░░░░ so I just told ░░░░░░░░ I had to leave ░░░░░░░░ gosomewhere else But I ░░░░░░░░ try to I just ░░░░░░░░ t know what to ░░░░░░░░ I just was frozen ░░░░░░░░ did tell him that ░░░░░░░░ was not going to ░░░░░░░░ that and I didn ░░░░░░░░ feel comfortable GUTHRIE You ░░░░░░░░ said that something like ░░░░░░░░ happened more than once ░░░░░░░░ Yes Over the years ░░░░░░░░ s happened And the ░░░░░░░░ of around 2010 when ░░░░░░░░ wife was away youknow ░░░░░░░░ got worse I would ░░░░░░░░ phone calls asking for ░░░░░░░░ to come to hotels ░░░░░░░░ know different things like ░░░░░░░░ So this continued on ░░░░░░░░ the years GUTHRIE Did ░░░░░░░░ ever tell any of ░░░░░░░░ superiors BROWN Yes There ░░░░░░░░ a time when I ░░░░░░░░ to who was the ░░░░░░░░ of staff at that ░░░░░░░░ in Detroit So he ░░░░░░░░ my boss GUTHRIE What ░░░░░░░░ the response BROWN He ░░░░░░░░ he would talk to ░░░░░░░░ congressman about it He ░░░░░░░░ that he didn t ░░░░░░░░ me in disbelief He ░░░░░░░░ he would talk to ░░░░░░░░ congressman about his behavior ░░░░░░░░ then I didn tcontinued ░░░░░░░░ that GUTHRIE Did the ░░░░░░░░ of staff follow up ░░░░░░░░ you and say hey ░░░░░░░░ had the conversation Did ░░░░░░░░ take care of it ░░░░░░░░ further action that you ░░░░░░░░ BROWN He told me ░░░░░░░░ talked to him but ░░░░░░░░ was up to him ░░░░░░░░ but there was no ░░░░░░░░ action formally Like you ░░░░░░░░ GUTHRIE You know Marion ░░░░░░░░ you describe is obviously ░░░░░░░░ disturbing and inappropriate I ░░░░░░░░ there will be people ░░░░░░░░ who say okay but ░░░░░░░░ worked for him for ░░░░░░░░ years 11 years Why ░░░░░░░░ t you go Why ░░░░░░░░ you stay BROWN I ░░░░░░░░ my job I enjoyed ░░░░░░░░ congressman is a civil ░░░░░░░░ icon When it comes ░░░░░░░░ things he s done ░░░░░░░░ came to him and ░░░░░░░░ on prisoner re entry ░░░░░░░░ is very important to ░░░░░░░░ A single mother of ░░░░░░░░ kids I had to ░░░░░░░░ my kids I got ░░░░░░░░ in the job servicing ░░░░░░░░ people It was something ░░░░░░░░ I enjoyed You know ░░░░░░░░ needed income So I ░░░░░░░░ know I endured it ░░░░░░░░ As you mentioned he ░░░░░░░░ denied these allegations There ░░░░░░░░ a settlement reached with ░░░░░░░░ correct BROWN Mm hmm ░░░░░░░░ And as part of ░░░░░░░░ settlement I believe both ░░░░░░░░ signed some kind of ░░░░░░░░ disclosure agreement In essence ░░░░░░░░ you aren t to ░░░░░░░░ publicly about these allegations ░░░░░░░░ I wouldn t assume ░░░░░░░░ is both parties GUTHRIE ░░░░░░░░ She signed a non ░░░░░░░░ agreement correct Yes BROWN ░░░░░░░░ GUTHRIE Here you are ░░░░░░░░ us your story Are ░░░░░░░░ taking a risk Has ░░░░░░░░ released you from that ░░░░░░░░ BROWN No No he ░░░░░░░░ t released but I ░░░░░░░░ taking a risk The ░░░░░░░░ why I m taking ░░░░░░░░ risk is it is ░░░░░░░░ I want to be ░░░░░░░░ voice you know My ░░░░░░░░ my grandmother you know ░░░░░░░░ mother my daughters you ░░░░░░░░ my granddaughter you know ░░░░░░░░ want her when she ░░░░░░░░ the workforce long when ░░░░░░░░ m gone I want ░░░░░░░░ to not have to ░░░░░░░░ know endure sexism and ░░░░░░░░ I want to stand ░░░░░░░░ I felt it was ░░░░░░░░ the risk to stand ░░░░░░░░ for all the women ░░░░░░░░ the workforce that are ░░░░░░░░ you know That ordinary ░░░░░░░░ like myself with extraordinary ░░░░░░░░ working in the workforce ░░░░░░░░ are dominated by men ░░░░░░░░ And we want to ░░░░░░░░ reforms in the system ░░░░░░░░ mean it is more ░░░░░░░░ just about Marion BROWN ░░░░░░░░ GUTHRIE She endured a ░░░░░░░░ system She had to ░░░░░░░░ to find an attorney ░░░░░░░░ attorney was paid for ░░░░░░░░ the taxpayers She had ░░░░░░░░ go through a cooling ░░░░░░░░ period like she is ░░░░░░░░ child Her complaint to ░░░░░░░░ was called a request ░░░░░░░░ counseling like there is ░░░░░░░░ kind of mental disorder ░░░░░░░░ the woman complaining about ░░░░░░░░ harassment We d like ░░░░░░░░ speak to the ethics ░░░░░░░░ and the office of ░░░░░░░░ and make this a ░░░░░░░░ system for everyone I ░░░░░░░░ to leave it here ░░░░░░░░ what do you hope ░░░░░░░░ to congressman Conyers and ░░░░░░░░ youbelieve he should step ░░░░░░░░ and resign BROWN I ░░░░░░░░ going to leave that ░░░░░░░░ to the ethics committee ░░░░░░░░ his colleagues All I ░░░░░░░░ from the congressman is ░░░░░░░░ him to acknowledge what ░░░░░░░░ did and apologize for ░░░░░░░░ to me for calling ░░░░░░░░ a liar GUTHRIE Marion ░░░░░░░░ thank you for being ░░░░░░░░