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McGurk: Seems To Be a Rope a Dope, I’ve Negotiated with the Iranians, I See Exactly What They‘re Doing
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CNN
Name: CNN
URL: http://www.cnn.com/
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The Lead with Jake Tapper (CNN)
Name: The Lead with Jake Tapper (CNN)
URL: https://www.cnn.com/shows/the-lead
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Phil Mattingly
, Brett McGurk
Name: Phil Mattingly
Employment: CNN
Position: Correspondent
Name: Brett McGurk
Employment: United States National Security Council (NSC)
Position: Coordinator for the Middle East and North Africa
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05/23/2025 06:36 pm
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RUSH TRANSCRIPT MATTINGLY Phil ░░░░░░░░ pleitgen for us in ░░░░░░░░ Thanks so much Joining ░░░░░░░░ now Brett McGurk He ░░░░░░░░ the special envoy under ░░░░░░░░ presidents national Security Council ░░░░░░░░ under President Biden But ░░░░░░░░ were involved in Iran ░░░░░░░░ I actually want to ░░░░░░░░ with what fred reported ░░░░░░░░ were Iranian officials were ░░░░░░░░ about the meeting saying ░░░░░░░░ they better the U ░░░░░░░░ better understands the position ░░░░░░░░ they did before I ░░░░░░░░ that seems innocuous may ░░░░░░░░ innocuous to people What ░░░░░░░░ those words mean to ░░░░░░░░ McGURK Well Look This ░░░░░░░░ One of the most ░░░░░░░░ files in Washington So ░░░░░░░░ give Steve a lot ░░░░░░░░ credit for taking this ░░░░░░░░ It s complicated Issue ░░░░░░░░ It s about Nuclear ░░░░░░░░ It s about sanctions ░░░░░░░░ s complicated Politically in ░░░░░░░░ capitals But look president ░░░░░░░░ put a deadline On ░░░░░░░░ talks in March over ░░░░░░░░ have To get a ░░░░░░░░ in two months And ░░░░░░░░ re At two months ░░░░░░░░ this now Seems to ░░░░░░░░ be be a rope ░░░░░░░░ dope I negotiated With ░░░░░░░░ Iranians I kind Of ░░░░░░░░ exactly What they re ░░░░░░░░ Look this Issue this ░░░░░░░░ Is A Critical year ░░░░░░░░ me tell you why ░░░░░░░░ things What s left ░░░░░░░░ the Obama era jcpoa ░░░░░░░░ provision in It That ░░░░░░░░ the critics Of that ░░░░░░░░ really like Is called ░░░░░░░░ That means any member ░░░░░░░░ That agreement Including the ░░░░░░░░ K And France Can ░░░░░░░░ to the UN security ░░░░░░░░ and say all UN ░░░░░░░░ sanctions come Back on ░░░░░░░░ Without having to have ░░░░░░░░ vote in The Security ░░░░░░░░ Unilateral that expires In ░░░░░░░░ And that is a ░░░░░░░░ piece of leverage against ░░░░░░░░ Iranians The Iranians know ░░░░░░░░ And the brits and ░░░░░░░░ French have been pretty ░░░░░░░░ line on this They ░░░░░░░░ we re ready to ░░░░░░░░ that if we don ░░░░░░░░ have a new deal ░░░░░░░░ that s going to ░░░░░░░░ later this year Another ░░░░░░░░ about this you know ░░░░░░░░ I was in the ░░░░░░░░ Room on October 1st ░░░░░░░░ year 200 ballistic missiles ░░░░░░░░ from Iran to Israel ░░░░░░░░ takes 13 minutes for ░░░░░░░░ flight And I kept ░░░░░░░░ at that moment if ░░░░░░░░ of those missiles ever ░░░░░░░░ an Iranian nuclear warhead ░░░░░░░░ don t care if ░░░░░░░░ s five years 20 ░░░░░░░░ from now Just think ░░░░░░░░ what could happen I ░░░░░░░░ this country Iran cannot ░░░░░░░░ on the threshold of ░░░░░░░░ nuclear weapons So this ░░░░░░░░ has to be dealt ░░░░░░░░ It can be dealt ░░░░░░░░ militarily as President Trump ░░░░░░░░ threatened It can be ░░░░░░░░ with diplomatically We want ░░░░░░░░ diplomatic resolution But as ░░░░░░░░ see this going on ░░░░░░░░ just don t see ░░░░░░░░ moving to a resolution ░░░░░░░░ mean you re talking ░░░░░░░░ more talks I ve ░░░░░░░░ this pattern before I ░░░░░░░░ the Iranians just want ░░░░░░░░ kind of string this ░░░░░░░░
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