Gordon Chang: The Chinese Regime ‘Does Not Want Us to Know What’s Going On’

CASONE The Wall Street ░░░░░░░░ is reporting that China ░░░░░░░░ stopped publishing hundreds of ░░░░░░░░ even official soy sauce ░░░░░░░░ reports making it harder ░░░░░░░░ know what s actually ░░░░░░░░ on with the economy ░░░░░░░░ Joining me now Gatestone ░░░░░░░░ senior fellow and author ░░░░░░░░ Plan Red China s ░░░░░░░░ to Destroy America Gordon ░░░░░░░░ Gordon good morning And ░░░░░░░░ is your reaction to ░░░░░░░░ stop in data production ░░░░░░░░ the CCP I mean ░░░░░░░░ that we could necessarily ░░░░░░░░ the data that we ░░░░░░░░ been given four years ░░░░░░░░ enough I ve said ░░░░░░░░ multiple times but this ░░░░░░░░ to be a new ░░░░░░░░ CHANG Yes it certainly ░░░░░░░░ And it has been ░░░░░░░░ on now for a ░░░░░░░░ of years because the ░░░░░░░░ technocrats understand that we ░░░░░░░░ underlying data to draw ░░░░░░░░ about their headline gross ░░░░░░░░ product numbers So for ░░░░░░░░ we re seeing a ░░░░░░░░ of evidence that suggests ░░░░░░░░ their 5 4 report ░░░░░░░░ growth in Q1 can ░░░░░░░░ be true And now ░░░░░░░░ President Trump said the ░░░░░░░░ economy is contracting We ░░░░░░░░ that from a price ░░░░░░░░ for March and February ░░░░░░░░ also saw it in ░░░░░░░░ PMI the purchasing managers ░░░░░░░░ for April which clearly ░░░░░░░░ factory activity on the ░░░░░░░░ So yes the Chinese ░░░░░░░░ does not want us ░░░░░░░░ know what s going ░░░░░░░░ and they are going ░░░░░░░░ continue to restrict information ░░░░░░░░ us CASONE But at ░░░░░░░░ same time they re ░░░░░░░░ to solidify relationships around ░░░░░░░░ world at the exclusion ░░░░░░░░ the United States I ░░░░░░░░ look at Russia and ░░░░░░░░ Iran and China their ░░░░░░░░ in Africa especially in ░░░░░░░░ Africa Gordon So the ░░░░░░░░ seem to be taking ░░░░░░░░ tack that you know ░░░░░░░░ may be closed off ░░░░░░░░ the American market but ░░░░░░░░ re trying to strengthen ░░░░░░░░ relationships I mean even ░░░░░░░░ CEO Mike Wirth joined ░░░░░░░░ on SMF yesterday he ░░░░░░░░ that China could hold ░░░░░░░░ influence on Venezuela if ░░░░░░░░ Trump Administration terminates a ░░░░░░░░ era grant that would ░░░░░░░░ Chevron to export Venezuelan ░░░░░░░░ to the U S ░░░░░░░░ what he told her ░░░░░░░░ want to get your ░░░░░░░░ to this Clip starts ░░░░░░░░ A good portion of ░░░░░░░░ oil has historically come ░░░░░░░░ the United States Refineries ░░░░░░░░ the Gulf Coast are ░░░░░░░░ to run that specific ░░░░░░░░ of oil and so ░░░░░░░░ s very important for ░░░░░░░░ security in the U ░░░░░░░░ The changes in the ░░░░░░░░ mean that that oil ░░░░░░░░ t flow to the ░░░░░░░░ S now so making ░░░░░░░░ less secure China is ░░░░░░░░ the largest buyer of ░░░░░░░░ oil today Venezuelan government ░░░░░░░░ have been in China ░░░░░░░░ recently encouraging China to ░░░░░░░░ more and so as ░░░░░░░░ largest buyer today The ░░░░░░░░ could drive even more ░░░░░░░░ that trade to China ░░░░░░░░ And this is sort ░░░░░░░░ China s M O ░░░░░░░░ a country s biggest ░░░░░░░░ and ultimately dominate And ░░░░░░░░ don t think the ░░░░░░░░ S or the Trump ░░░░░░░░ wants to see China ░░░░░░░░ another country WIRTH Well ░░░░░░░░ re right We ve ░░░░░░░░ this playbook before in ░░░░░░░░ and Latin American and ░░░░░░░░ Asia and China has ░░░░░░░░ a stronger presence stronger ░░░░░░░░ and control over economies ░░░░░░░░ governments around the world ░░░░░░░░ using their economic assets ░░░░░░░░ position to do so ░░░░░░░░ ends CASONE Gordon your ░░░░░░░░ to that CHANG Well ░░░░░░░░ that Mike Wirth says ░░░░░░░░ true but there s ░░░░░░░░ aspect to that and ░░░░░░░░ is if Chevron leaves ░░░░░░░░ President Trump has ordered ░░░░░░░░ the Chinese and Russians ░░░░░░░░ come in but they ░░░░░░░░ come in on terms ░░░░░░░░ are not as favorable ░░░░░░░░ the terms that Venezuela ░░░░░░░░ with Chevron and that ░░░░░░░░ the Venezuelan regime will ░░░░░░░░ weakened And that s ░░░░░░░░ important thing Let s ░░░░░░░░ that the Venezuelan opposition ░░░░░░░░ people who want democracy ░░░░░░░░ that country want Chevron ░░░░░░░░ and they understand the ░░░░░░░░ why Because Maduro will ░░░░░░░░ less of a good ░░░░░░░░ with this Also we ░░░░░░░░ got to remember the ░░░░░░░░ for this All of ░░░░░░░░ migration during the Biden ░░░░░░░░ through our southern border ░░░░░░░░ wasn t organic That ░░░░░░░░ actually supported by the ░░░░░░░░ regime which supported NGOs ░░░░░░░░ told us what they ░░░░░░░░ doing They were attacking ░░░░░░░░ sovereignty So Venezuela is ░░░░░░░░ enemy and we need ░░░░░░░░ make sure that we ░░░░░░░░ t strengthen our enemies ░░░░░░░░ can get oil from ░░░░░░░░ places We can drill ░░░░░░░░ of our own soil ░░░░░░░░ can buy from our ░░░░░░░░ Let s not buy ░░░░░░░░ our enemies CASONE And ░░░░░░░░ think that s President ░░░░░░░░ s point and has ░░░░░░░░ for years drill baby ░░░░░░░░ You know we ve ░░░░░░░░ the capacity to generate ░░░░░░░░ here in the United ░░░░░░░░ on our land Let ░░░░░░░░ do it I ve ░░░░░░░░ Liz Peek on set ░░░░░░░░ s got a question ░░░░░░░░ you PEEK Gordon good ░░░░░░░░ There was apparently news ░░░░░░░░ in China a week ░░░░░░░░ or so about factories ░░░░░░░░ in the south people ░░░░░░░░ laid off which I ░░░░░░░░ surprised about because there ░░░░░░░░ such a hold on ░░░░░░░░ flow and I don ░░░░░░░░ think that s what ░░░░░░░░ Jinping wants Chinese people ░░░░░░░░ be watching What s ░░░░░░░░ take on that Is ░░░░░░░░ beginning to get pushback ░░░░░░░░ his one man controlled ░░░░░░░░ which is doing so ░░░░░░░░ now CHANG Yes he ░░░░░░░░ Well first of all ░░░░░░░░ are factory closures China ░░░░░░░░ t sell to the ░░░░░░░░ south or to anybody ░░░░░░░░ the products that it ░░░░░░░░ otherwise have sold to ░░░░░░░░ U S because Trump ░░░░░░░░ tariffs at their current ░░░░░░░░ keep many Chinese products ░░░░░░░░ of our country and ░░░░░░░░ means these export oriented ░░░░░░░░ especially those in the ░░░░░░░░ portion of the country ░░░░░░░░ have been closing They ░░░░░░░░ been in trouble for ░░░░░░░░ couple years now and ░░░░░░░░ certainly are at a ░░░░░░░░ where they can t ░░░░░░░░ This is something that ░░░░░░░░ weakening Xi Jinping s ░░░░░░░░ on power Remember he ░░░░░░░░ got near total accountability ░░░░░░░░ he s taken power ░░░░░░░░ everybody else and that ░░░░░░░░ he s being blamed ░░░░░░░░ the tariff war as ░░░░░░░░ Chinese call it and ░░░░░░░░ means his grip I ░░░░░░░░ is now weakening He ░░░░░░░░ not the all powerful ░░░░░░░░ that he was pre ░░░░░░░░ CASONE Along with those ░░░░░░░░ questions Gordon about us ░░░░░░░░ which has been brought ░░░░░░░░ repeatedly And again because ░░░░░░░░ is China can t ░░░░░░░░ a clear answer on ░░░░░░░░ as well Gordon Chang ░░░░░░░░ you for being here ░░░░░░░░ s always good to ░░░░░░░░ to you CHANG Thank ░░░░░░░░ Cheryl.”