RUSH TRANSCRIPT Vladimir Putin ░░░░░░░░ a temporary ceasefire today ░░░░░░░░ President Trump continues to ░░░░░░░░ for an end to ░░░░░░░░ war in Ukraine this ░░░░░░░░ The president met with ░░░░░░░░ president Zelenskyy at the ░░░░░░░░ later signaling to reporters ░░░░░░░░ he may be willing ░░░░░░░░ cede crimea Zelenskyy ready ░░░░░░░░ give up crimea Do ░░░░░░░░ think Mr President I ░░░░░░░░ So yeah Well joining ░░░░░░░░ now foreign policy editor ░░░░░░░░ chief ravi agarwal Ravi ░░░░░░░░ you for joining me ░░░░░░░░ in the Atlantic s ░░░░░░░░ with President Trump Jeffrey ░░░░░░░░ asked if there was ░░░░░░░░ Putin could do to ░░░░░░░░ Trump on Zelenskyy s ░░░░░░░░ And Trump said not ░░░░░░░░ on Zelenskyy s side ░░░░░░░░ on Ukraine s side ░░░░░░░░ Yeah but not necessarily ░░░░░░░░ Zelenskyy s side I ░░░░░░░░ had a hard time ░░░░░░░░ Zelenskyy What does a ░░░░░░░░ like that mean for ░░░░░░░░ potential cease fire Well ░░░░░░░░ mean look I think ░░░░░░░░ has A long Had ░░░░░░░░ complicated relationship with President ░░░░░░░░ Going back to the ░░░░░░░░ reason why he was ░░░░░░░░ for the first time ░░░░░░░░ well So he s ░░░░░░░░ quite liked him I ░░░░░░░░ what became quite clear ░░░░░░░░ Zelenskyy went to the ░░░░░░░░ House was that they ░░░░░░░░ t share the kind ░░░░░░░░ personal chemistry that Trump ░░░░░░░░ for example with someone ░░░░░░░░ prime minister modi of ░░░░░░░░ or other world leaders ░░░░░░░░ that he genuinely likes ░░░░░░░░ time with So there ░░░░░░░░ some of that Read ░░░░░░░░ that what you will ░░░░░░░░ I think Ukrainians will ░░░░░░░░ quite heartened by this ░░░░░░░░ latest meeting between Zelenskyy ░░░░░░░░ Trump at the pope ░░░░░░░░ funeral where it seems ░░░░░░░░ Trump is beginning to ░░░░░░░░ most of all just ░░░░░░░░ difficult it is to ░░░░░░░░ with Putin that he ░░░░░░░░ t necessarily a good ░░░░░░░░ negotiator that last week ░░░░░░░░ deadly awful attacks in ░░░░░░░░ which killed many civilians ░░░░░░░░ directly spoke out against ░░░░░░░░ as something that hurts ░░░░░░░░ sets back those negotiations ░░░░░░░░ those are all things ░░░░░░░░ think that Zelenskyy would ░░░░░░░░ to with a degree ░░░░░░░░ hope I think So ░░░░░░░░ heard Donald Trump just ░░░░░░░░ in that soundbite that ░░░░░░░░ thinks Zelenskyy is going ░░░░░░░░ consider or might be ░░░░░░░░ to cede crimea He ░░░░░░░░ said ceding crimea would ░░░░░░░░ Ukraine s constitution So ░░░░░░░░ would the political reality ░░░░░░░░ like for him If ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump is saying ░░░░░░░░ true So I think ░░░░░░░░ is getting ahead of ░░░░░░░░ here The you know ░░░░░░░░ proposal that is currently ░░░░░░░░ discussed suggests that the ░░░░░░░░ States might implicitly sort ░░░░░░░░ look at Russia s ░░░░░░░░ of crimea in 2014 ░░░░░░░░ might implicitly sort of ░░░░░░░░ that that you know ░░░░░░░░ s willing to see ░░░░░░░░ as something that is ░░░░░░░░ done deal but Ukraine ░░░░░░░░ not do so It ░░░░░░░░ would it would ignore ░░░░░░░░ its claims to it ░░░░░░░░ would be frozen in ░░░░░░░░ sense There are many ░░░░░░░░ of the sort of ░░░░░░░░ deal that are unclear ░░░░░░░░ could still shift but ░░░░░░░░ will point out that ░░░░░░░░ nuts and bolts of ░░░░░░░░ from what we re ░░░░░░░░ is that you have ░░░░░░░░ makings of a land ░░░░░░░░ peace agreement and that ░░░░░░░░ has moved some way ░░░░░░░░ that direction which could ░░░░░░░░ a sign of hope ░░░░░░░░ big things here that ░░░░░░░░ remain sort of kind ░░░░░░░░ unfinalized as it were ░░░░░░░░ backstopping European forces were ░░░░░░░░ to ensure Ukraine s ░░░░░░░░ in the future And ░░░░░░░░ lot of that comes ░░░░░░░░ to trust Does Ukraine ░░░░░░░░ Trump in the future ░░░░░░░░ it Does it expect ░░░░░░░░ to do as he ░░░░░░░░ Is any paper that ░░░░░░░░ agreement is signed on ░░░░░░░░ that worth more than ░░░░░░░░ the paper it s ░░░░░░░░ on That remains to ░░░░░░░░ seen So Marco Rubio ░░░░░░░░ on Meet the Press ░░░░░░░░ weekend Here s what ░░░░░░░░ said about the negotiations ░░░░░░░░ week is Going to ░░░░░░░░ really important week in ░░░░░░░░ we have to make ░░░░░░░░ determination about whether this ░░░░░░░░ an endeavor that we ░░░░░░░░ to continue to be ░░░░░░░░ in or if it ░░░░░░░░ time to sort of ░░░░░░░░ on some other issues ░░░░░░░░ are equally if not ░░░░░░░░ important in some cases ░░░░░░░░ we want to see ░░░░░░░░ happen We want to ░░░░░░░░ it happen He wants ░░░░░░░░ And yet Rubio Rubio ░░░░░░░░ is the one who ░░░░░░░░ the talks in London ░░░░░░░░ week which stalled negotiations ░░░░░░░░ what would movement on ░░░░░░░░ deal actually look like ░░░░░░░░ Trump s cabinet I ░░░░░░░░ movement would look like ░░░░░░░░ first of all no ░░░░░░░░ major attacks Those are ░░░░░░░░ massive setbacks to any ░░░░░░░░ that we have so ░░░░░░░░ And to be clear ░░░░░░░░ as we are often ░░░░░░░░ Trump and the way ░░░░░░░░ s gone about this ░░░░░░░░ is some momentum and ░░░░░░░░ that is actually a ░░░░░░░░ thing Rubio himself has ░░░░░░░░ not been prominent in ░░░░░░░░ of these talks so ░░░░░░░░ It s actually Steven ░░░░░░░░ who s who s ░░░░░░░░ the lead on most ░░░░░░░░ it But movement would ░░░░░░░░ in the next few ░░░░░░░░ trying to hammer out ░░░░░░░░ details of you know ░░░░░░░░ a land for peace ░░░░░░░░ would look like And ░░░░░░░░ of all what security ░░░░░░░░ in the future would ░░░░░░░░ like I think there ░░░░░░░░ an element of desperation ░░░░░░░░ though on the part ░░░░░░░░ the Trump Administration which ░░░░░░░░ like Putin has been ░░░░░░░░ so far by kicking ░░░░░░░░ can down the road ░░░░░░░░ would perhaps be advisable ░░░░░░░░ the Trump Administration to ░░░░░░░░ know make clear that ░░░░░░░░ s here for the ░░░░░░░░ term Yeah Thank you ░░░░░░░░ much Robbie Thank you ░░░░░░░░ next, he