CNN’s Audie Cornish: Not Saying Hegseth Has Become A ‘Joke,’ But . . .

CORNISH OK Here to ░░░░░░░░ off the only other ░░░░░░░░ chat that matters here ░░░░░░░░ staff writer at The ░░░░░░░░ Jerusalem Demsas Democratic strategist ░░░░░░░░ Rocha and CNN political ░░░░░░░░ and Republican strategist and ░░░░░░░░ Kristen Soltis Anderson SOLTIS ░░░░░░░░ I think in terms ░░░░░░░░ Trump actually taking action ░░░░░░░░ will only be if ░░░░░░░░ perceives that it is ░░░░░░░░ his political standing And ░░░░░░░░ now I don t ░░░░░░░░ that the second group ░░░░░░░░ revelation is as damaging ░░░░░░░░ I mean I just ░░░░░░░░ any damage you would ░░░░░░░░ already seen would have ░░░░░░░░ from the first revelation ░░░░░░░░ You see a drip ░░░░░░░░ And it went on ░░░░░░░░ felt cowboy hat season ░░░░░░░░ straw cowboy hat season ░░░░░░░░ we re still talking ░░░░░░░░ it DEMSAS I think ░░░░░░░░ a policy perspective it ░░░░░░░░ really dangerous to have ░░░░░░░░ situation where the president ░░░░░░░░ the United States or ░░░░░░░░ in the administration are ░░░░░░░░ interested in hearing the ░░░░░░░░ loop that someone s ░░░░░░░░ working out This is ░░░░░░░░ head of the Defense ░░░░░░░░ CORNISH But in fairness ░░░░░░░░ hear that all the ░░░░░░░░ that it s not ░░░░░░░░ out right DEMSAS Yes ░░░░░░░░ I mean you have ░░░░░░░░ be able to evaluate ░░░░░░░░ Like Democrats are like ░░░░░░░░ s not working That ░░░░░░░░ not working DEMSAS Sure ░░░░░░░░ you have to be ░░░░░░░░ to evaluate the difference ░░░░░░░░ your opponents disagreeing with ░░░░░░░░ and someone literally sharing ░░░░░░░░ security secrets Not one ░░░░░░░░ two unsecured group chats ░░░░░░░░ of which are not ░░░░░░░░ people who are in ░░░░░░░░ administration at all CORNISH ░░░░░░░░ other thing that s ░░░░░░░░ is I think multiple ░░░░░░░░ actually were commenting on ░░░░░░░░ the Pentagon They were ░░░░░░░░ people who had worked ░░░░░░░░ Hegseth at his previous ░░░░░░░░ which people said he ░░░░░░░░ t able to run ░░░░░░░░ And now they are ░░░░░░░░ there talking about how ░░░░░░░░ were wrongly fired And ░░░░░░░░ feel like that s ░░░░░░░░ helpful in this moment ░░░░░░░░ Because he s not ░░░░░░░░ criticism from longtime Democrats ░░░░░░░░ longtime Pentagon people It ░░░░░░░░ like his own buddies ░░░░░░░░ SOLTIS Anderson Like I ░░░░░░░░ But at some point ░░░░░░░░ it move from it ░░░░░░░░ a joke to he ░░░░░░░░ a joke And I ░░░░░░░░ not saying that s ░░░░░░░░ s happening But like ░░░░░░░░ starts out Operation Overshare ░░░░░░░░ know And then next ░░░░░░░░ you know it s ░░░░░░░░ SOLTIS Anderson: “I also —“