RUSH TRANSCRIPT Year with ░░░░░░░░ renewal and get instant ░░░░░░░░ to member benefits and ░░░░░░░░ programs Join and get ░░░░░░░░ free gift Plus aarp ░░░░░░░░ magazine In our politics ░░░░░░░░ The Trump Administration continues ░░░░░░░░ ramp up its attacks ░░░░░░░░ Harvard university as it ░░░░░░░░ the elite university s ░░░░░░░░ to host international students ░░░░░░░░ is not alone By ░░░░░░░░ s count the Department ░░░░░░░░ Homeland Security has deleted ░░░░░░░░ visas of more than ░░░░░░░░ international students and faculty ░░░░░░░░ more than 130 colleges ░░░░░░░░ universities just over the ░░░░░░░░ few weeks And it ░░░░░░░░ t just students who ░░░░░░░░ in anti Israel protests ░░░░░░░░ CNN s Gloria Pazmino ░░░░░░░░ a majority of university ░░░░░░░░ say they simply don ░░░░░░░░ know why these visas ░░░░░░░░ been terminated Jason maas ░░░░░░░░ months away from Completing ░░░░░░░░ mother s dying wish ░░░░░░░░ of the major factors ░░░░░░░░ I decided to come ░░░░░░░░ and talk about this ░░░░░░░░ the fact that my ░░░░░░░░ is sick Ma a ░░░░░░░░ National studying Electrical computer ░░░░░░░░ At carnegie Mellon university ░░░░░░░░ Pittsburgh is One of ░░░░░░░░ of International students across ░░░░░░░░ U S whose visas ░░░░░░░░ student status has been ░░░░░░░░ in the past month ░░░░░░░░ it s my Entire ░░░░░░░░ at jeopardy He was ░░░░░░░░ no other explanation and ░░░░░░░░ yet to hear from ░░░░░░░░ federal agency Now he ░░░░░░░░ wondering if he ll ░░░░░░░░ to leave the country ░░░░░░░░ school and his unfinished ░░░░░░░░ behind I have you ░░░░░░░░ my suitcase half packed ░░░░░░░░ it s A real ░░░░░░░░ Indian and Chinese nationals ░░░░░░░░ up the largest share ░░░░░░░░ all international students enrolled ░░░░░░░░ the U S India ░░░░░░░░ more than 331 000 ░░░░░░░░ in the last academic ░░░░░░░░ China came in second ░░░░░░░░ more than 277 000 ░░░░░░░░ enrolled across U S ░░░░░░░░ and universities These students ░░░░░░░░ The future Ambassadors who ░░░░░░░░ going to make significant ░░░░░░░░ Chinese students are under ░░░░░░░░ scrutiny as relations between ░░░░░░░░ and Beijing deteriorate China ░░░░░░░░ ministry of education issued ░░░░░░░░ advisory this month after ░░░░░░░░ U S hit Chinese ░░░░░░░░ with new tariffs telling ░░░░░░░░ to quote conduct safety ░░░░░░░░ assessments when choosing to ░░░░░░░░ in relevant states in ░░░░░░░░ U S I would ░░░░░░░░ That the last Few ░░░░░░░░ Have been for many ░░░░░░░░ is a term that ░░░░░░░░ ve heard from many ░░░░░░░░ our colleagues anxiety producing ░░░░░░░░ many levels Dr Oz ░░░░░░░░ has been tracking cases ░░░░░░░░ visa revocations in recent ░░░░░░░░ and hearing from international ░░░░░░░░ who have yet to ░░░░░░░░ enforcement action but are ░░░░░░░░ leaving the country It ░░░░░░░░ be an abrupt shift ░░░░░░░░ student enrollments were at ░░░░░░░░ all time record high ░░░░░░░░ academic year More than ░░░░░░░░ 1 million international students ░░░░░░░░ at American colleges and ░░░░░░░░ Trump s international student ░░░░░░░░ initially appeared to focus ░░░░░░░░ student activists who participated ░░░░░░░░ demonstrations against the Israel ░░░░░░░░ war last year But ░░░░░░░░ it appears to have ░░░░░░░░ Revocations are being driven ░░░░░░░░ small infractions traffic violations ░░░░░░░░ minor run ins with ░░░░░░░░ There was a Dui ░░░░░░░░ years ago But he ░░░░░░░░ that that case Was ░░░░░░░░ The State Department has ░░░░░░░░ multiple times to provide ░░░░░░░░ about the criteria they ░░░░░░░░ using to revoke student ░░░░░░░░ The department Revokes visas ░░░░░░░░ day In order to ░░░░░░░░ our borders and to ░░░░░░░░ our community Safe And ░░░░░░░░ continue to do so ░░░░░░░░ speaking with students and ░░░░░░░░ all of them pointed ░░░░░░░░ that students in many ░░░░░░░░ are easy targets The ░░░░░░░░ government has a wealth ░░░░░░░░ information about them provided ░░░░░░░░ the students seeking to ░░░░░░░░ their status The unexplained ░░░░░░░░ so far have left ░░░░░░░░ feeling like they re ░░░░░░░░ pushed out of the ░░░░░░░░ As an effort to ░░░░░░░░ the United States less ░░░░░░░░ and less welcoming to ░░░░░░░░ from certain nations Jake ░░░░░░░░ Pazmino in New York ░░░░░░░░ so much Joining us ░░░░░░░░ is dustin baxter Dustin ░░░░░░░░ is an immigration and ░░░░░░░░ attorney He represents more ░░░░░░░░ 100 international students currently ░░░░░░░░ the Trump Administration Dustin ░░░░░░░░ for joining us So ░░░░░░░░ say that the Trump ░░░░░░░░ is going well beyond ░░░░░░░░ just activists Not that ░░░░░░░░ s acceptable but at ░░░░░░░░ that is a stated ░░░░░░░░ You say that they ░░░░░░░░ going after international students ░░░░░░░░ may have had an ░░░░░░░░ with a police officer ░░░░░░░░ even just a traffic ░░░░░░░░ even if there isn ░░░░░░░░ an arrest What do ░░░░░░░░ can you discern any ░░░░░░░░ of goal here of ░░░░░░░░ Trump Administration No I ░░░░░░░░ it s They must ░░░░░░░░ run some Kind Of ░░░░░░░░ I program through their ░░░░░░░░ and just Put a ░░░░░░░░ on anybody who had ░░░░░░░░ type of encounter with ░░░░░░░░ type of law enforcement ░░░░░░░░ Authority figures because we ░░░░░░░░ seen A Majority of ░░░░░░░░ clients the people who ░░░░░░░░ plaintiffs they only have ░░░░░░░░ or even tickets for ░░░░░░░░ for a stop sign ░░░░░░░░ So no matter how ░░░░░░░░ they were just flagged ░░░░░░░░ the system for some ░░░░░░░░ And those people were ░░░░░░░░ for revocation of their ░░░░░░░░ Your case was heard ░░░░░░░░ court today The judge ░░░░░░░░ not immediately rule The ░░░░░░░░ did hint at some ░░░░░░░░ possible relief for these ░░░░░░░░ The Trump Administration argues ░░░░░░░░ any relief would be ░░░░░░░░ to quote the executive ░░░░░░░░ s ability to control ░░░░░░░░ unquote What would be ░░░░░░░░ response to that Well ░░░░░░░░ Trump Administration still is ░░░░░░░░ by the Constitution So ░░░░░░░░ they re going to ░░░░░░░░ this if they re ░░░░░░░░ to try and take ░░░░░░░░ people s status they ░░░░░░░░ to go through due ░░░░░░░░ They have to follow ░░░░░░░░ rules of the administrative ░░░░░░░░ act and go through ░░░░░░░░ steps and give them ░░░░░░░░ chance to defend themselves ░░░░░░░░ refute whatever whatever problems ░░░░░░░░ is that the Trump ░░░░░░░░ views them as having ░░░░░░░░ s almost may so ░░░░░░░░ is just around the ░░░░░░░░ for for some of ░░░░░░░░ students Are any of ░░░░░░░░ students you represent worried ░░░░░░░░ they will be arrested ░░░░░░░░ may have to flee ░░░░░░░░ self deport before they ░░░░░░░░ finish their degree Absolutely ░░░░░░░░ filed anonymously for all ░░░░░░░░ all these individuals out ░░░░░░░░ fear that the Trump ░░░░░░░░ would would seek vengeance ░░░░░░░░ these people for filing ░░░░░░░░ lawsuit So absolutely that ░░░░░░░░ a concern We have ░░░░░░░░ who are getting ready ░░░░░░░░ graduate We have people ░░░░░░░░ are in getting their ░░░░░░░░ that are supposed to ░░░░░░░░ their dissertations this week ░░░░░░░░ there are a lot ░░░░░░░░ people with a lot ░░░░░░░░ stake but they re ░░░░░░░░ to weigh you know ░░░░░░░░ I go out in ░░░░░░░░ Do I do I ░░░░░░░░ my name out there ░░░░░░░░ risk being a target ░░░░░░░░ basically abducted in the ░░░░░░░░ like we see happening ░░░░░░░░ people in the news ░░░░░░░░ if they just want ░░░░░░░░ lay low and see ░░░░░░░░ happens with this lawsuit ░░░░░░░░ they take any action ░░░░░░░░ lot of university administrators ░░░░░░░░ CNN that the Department ░░░░░░░░ Homeland Security is going ░░░░░░░░ the student and exchange ░░░░░░░░ information system or sevice ░░░░░░░░ deleting the visas of ░░░░░░░░ students without the schools ░░░░░░░░ knowing Is that typically ░░░░░░░░ the process works No ░░░░░░░░ s not typically how ░░░░░░░░ process works This is ░░░░░░░░ brand new brand new ░░░░░░░░ by the Trump Administration ░░░░░░░░ is not how it ░░░░░░░░ ever worked In fact ░░░░░░░░ most of these dsos ░░░░░░░░ service these designated school ░░░░░░░░ they didn t get ░░░░░░░░ notifications They had to ░░░░░░░░ in affirmatively and look ░░░░░░░░ the system to see ░░░░░░░░ any of their students ░░░░░░░░ this registration have been ░░░░░░░░ So this is not ░░░░░░░░ that s ever happened ░░░░░░░░ Very very it s ░░░░░░░░ happened You say this ░░░░░░░░ never happened before in ░░░░░░░░ of the ksha system ░░░░░░░░ about just this approach ░░░░░░░░ foreign students in general ░░░░░░░░ so in the past ░░░░░░░░ ve seen that the ░░░░░░░░ of state has revoked ░░░░░░░░ occasionally for people who ░░░░░░░░ certain arrests or convictions ░░░░░░░░ at least what they ░░░░░░░░ is when you leave ░░░░░░░░ United States as a ░░░░░░░░ you have to reapply ░░░░░░░░ a visa to come ░░░░░░░░ in They ll ask ░░░░░░░░ about an arrest Sometimes ░░░░░░░░ it s an arrest ░░░░░░░░ to like alcohol or ░░░░░░░░ of that matter of ░░░░░░░░ nature they ll put ░░░░░░░░ in a program where ░░░░░░░░ have to show that ░░░░░░░░ don t have an ░░░░░░░░ abuse program or problem ░░░░░░░░ they ll give them ░░░░░░░░ visa to come back ░░░░░░░░ But revocation of the ░░░░░░░░ that s happened you ░░░░░░░░ historically based on convictions ░░░░░░░░ other issues but not ░░░░░░░░ this cancellation termination And ░░░░░░░░ should just note that ░░░░░░░░ and universities I m ░░░░░░░░ from Catherine Rampell column ░░░░░░░░ the Washington Post two ░░░░░░░░ ago are among America ░░░░░░░░ most competitive international exporters ░░░░░░░░ dollar terms she says ░░░░░░░░ year the U S ░░░░░░░░ more educational services to ░░░░░░░░ rest of the world ░░░░░░░░ it sold in natural ░░░░░░░░ and coal combined So ░░░░░░░░ is financially a real ░░░░░░░░ here If people stop ░░░░░░░░ their students to the ░░░░░░░░ States So there s ░░░░░░░░ lot of money that ░░░░░░░░ United States makes from ░░░░░░░░ Dustin baxter thank you ░░░░░░░░ much Appreciate it A ░░░░░░░░ researcher announcing his early ░░░░░░░░ from the National Institutes ░░░░░░░░ Health blaming his exit ░░░░░░░░ leadership under the new ░░░░░░░░ of the department of ░░░░░░░░ and human