Joy Reid Stunned When Pastor Mark Burns Suggests Roy Moore Is More Credible than Accusers

>> Joining me now Frank ░░░░░░░░ author of Letter to ░░░░░░░░ a manifest of creative ░░░░░░░░ in the age of ░░░░░░░░ fascism and lies Sarah ░░░░░░░░ and mark Burnes Pastor ░░░░░░░░ I m going to ░░░░░░░░ with you As of ░░░░░░░░ nine women have accused ░░░░░░░░ Moore of sexual misconduct ░░░░░░░░ them when they were ░░░░░░░░ in Alabama How do ░░░░░░░░ explain the continued support ░░░░░░░░ him including from self ░░░░░░░░ evangelicals in that state ░░░░░░░░ joy first of all ░░░░░░░░ m always happy to ░░░░░░░░ here on your show ░░░░░░░░ me just say this ░░░░░░░░ have always openly condemned ░░░░░░░░ type of sexual misconduct ░░░░░░░░ if anyone were to ░░░░░░░░ found guilty of such ░░░░░░░░ I would believe would ░░░░░░░░ unfit for office Now ░░░░░░░░ to the victims or ░░░░░░░░ alleged victims you know ░░░░░░░░ there is no real ░░░░░░░░ to identify whether they ░░░░░░░░ being truthful or being ░░░░░░░░ or they have been ░░░░░░░░ as political pawns There ░░░░░░░░ no real way to ░░░░░░░░ that I do think ░░░░░░░░ they should be heard ░░░░░░░░ do think that their ░░░░░░░░ matters but I also ░░░░░░░░ that the voice of ░░░░░░░░ Moore matters as well ░░░░░░░░ I ve stated before ░░░░░░░░ is very suspicious that ░░░░░░░░ would have taken place ░░░░░░░░ this time I also ░░░░░░░░ that unfortunately we are ░░░░░░░░ in a society where ░░░░░░░░ are now becoming guilty ░░░░░░░░ proven innocent when that ░░░░░░░░ not how America is ░░░░░░░░ up And people think ░░░░░░░░ know I m here ░░░░░░░░ Roy Moore I m ░░░░░░░░ defending Roy Moore I ░░░░░░░░ defending due process I ░░░░░░░░ like to believe that ░░░░░░░░ you were ever accused ░░░░░░░░ something that you know ░░░░░░░░ you did not do ░░░░░░░░ you would the people ░░░░░░░░ are accusing you you ░░░░░░░░ believe people are treating ░░░░░░░░ the same way that ░░░░░░░░ would want to be ░░░░░░░░ if you were in ░░░░░░░░ case which is give ░░░░░░░░ the benefit of the ░░░░░░░░ Look at the people ░░░░░░░░ have surrounded you who ░░░░░░░░ have proven history of ░░░░░░░░ good and doing well ░░░░░░░░ for the good of ░░░░░░░░ people And so that ░░░░░░░░ really all we have ░░░░░░░░ go on I really ░░░░░░░░ to believe that this ░░░░░░░░ be played out not ░░░░░░░░ the public media but ░░░░░░░░ voted by the people ░░░░░░░░ Alabama I m quite ░░░░░░░░ I ll never be ░░░░░░░░ of preying on teenage ░░░░░░░░ Have you ever known ░░░░░░░░ who s bnz accused ░░░░░░░░ nine different people of ░░░░░░░░ on teenage girls and ░░░░░░░░ banned from a shopping ░░░░░░░░ because of a history ░░░░░░░░ predatory behavior Do you ░░░░░░░░ anyone ever accused of ░░░░░░░░ different people of preying ░░░░░░░░ teenage girls sexually Let ░░░░░░░░ just answer that if ░░░░░░░░ can briefly First of ░░░░░░░░ it is proven that ░░░░░░░░ gadsden mall manager said ░░░░░░░░ this story of him ░░░░░░░░ banned from the mall ░░░░░░░░ a false story I ░░░░░░░░ never seen any evidence ░░░░░░░░ that It is 100 ░░░░░░░░ Have you ever heard ░░░░░░░░ anyone being accused of ░░░░░░░░ women Joy let me ░░░░░░░░ this Of preying on ░░░░░░░░ when they were teenagers ░░░░░░░░ don t have to ░░░░░░░░ akooufd of sexual morality ░░░░░░░░ can be accused of ░░░░░░░░ No no no Of ░░░░░░░░ morality do you know ░░░░░░░░ any other man that ░░░░░░░░ ve ever dealt with ░░░░░░░░ s been accused by ░░░░░░░░ different people or by ░░░░░░░░ number of people of ░░░░░░░░ on them when they ░░░░░░░░ teenage girls You make ░░░░░░░░ sound as if this ░░░░░░░░ something that happens all ░░░░░░░░ time Well I personally ░░░░░░░░ never known anybody that ░░░░░░░░ been accused of sexual ░░░░░░░░ But the thing that ░░░░░░░░ m saying is we ░░░░░░░░ to also understand we ░░░░░░░░ to be wise with ░░░░░░░░ process What due process ░░░░░░░░ there be We want ░░░░░░░░ of our candidates to ░░░░░░░░ morality but morality is ░░░░░░░░ the only qualification for ░░░░░░░░ Oh it s not ░░░░░░░░ are discovering that throughout ░░░░░░░░ history of the bible ░░░░░░░░ the scriptures we discover ░░░░░░░░ had used so many ░░░░░░░░ people We love the ░░░░░░░░ of David but also ░░░░░░░░ that the same person ░░░░░░░░ wrote those psalms of ░░░░░░░░ was also a murderer ░░░░░░░░ an adulterer He had ░░░░░░░░ He was a liar ░░░░░░░░ s interesting Jesus was ░░░░░░░░ only perfect man that ░░░░░░░░ walked the Earth Even ░░░░░░░░ Martin Luther King discovered ░░░░░░░░ there could have been ░░░░░░░░ possible infidelity That did ░░░░░░░░ disqualify him from leading ░░░░░░░░ to the promised land ░░░░░░░░ so I m not ░░░░░░░░ that Roy Moore is ░░░░░░░░ or innocent I m ░░░░░░░░ simply saying let us ░░░░░░░░ to the facts Let ░░░░░░░░ ask a question Hold ░░░░░░░░ a second We have ░░░░░░░░ other guests As a ░░░░░░░░ do you counsel your ░░░░░░░░ that morality is not ░░░░░░░░ necessary ingredient for leadership ░░░░░░░░ that what you preach ░░░░░░░░ your church Because you ░░░░░░░░ said it doesn t ░░░░░░░░ You have just taken ░░░░░░░░ I said out of ░░░░░░░░ I did not say ░░░░░░░░ is not important But ░░░░░░░░ is not qualifying for ░░░░░░░░ in your view If ░░░░░░░░ was the case all ░░░░░░░░ us would be disqualified ░░░░░░░░ don t think all ░░░░░░░░ us have been accused ░░░░░░░░ sexually molesting children The ░░░░░░░░ says we all have ░░░░░░░░ and fallen short of ░░░░░░░░ glory of god I ░░░░░░░░ been an immoral man ░░░░░░░░ after I was saved ░░░░░░░░ have fallen by the ░░░░░░░░ but by the grace ░░░░░░░░ Jesus I m still ░░░░░░░░