Rep. Jayapal Promotes ‘Resistance Labs’ to Take Down ‘Dictator’ Donald Trump

MADDOW This weekend Congresswoman ░░░░░░░░ Jayapal decided she would ░░░░░░░░ a follow up a ░░░░░░░░ so called resistance lab ░░░░░░░░ congresswoman says more than ░░░░░░░░ people took up took ░░░░░░░░ in the follow up ░░░░░░░░ this weekend Not just ░░░░░░░░ who are constituents not ░░░░░░░░ people from Washington State ░░░░░░░░ says it was 1500 ░░░░░░░░ in 31 different states ░░░░░░░░ us now is Congresswoman ░░░░░░░░ Jayapal Democrat from the ░░░░░░░░ state of Washington Congresswoman ░░░░░░░░ s really nice to ░░░░░░░░ you Thanks very much ░░░░░░░░ being here Jayapal Thank ░░░░░░░░ for having me Rachel ░░░░░░░░ Help me understand this ░░░░░░░░ of the resistance lab ░░░░░░░░ what you re talking ░░░░░░░░ in practical terms at ░░░░░░░░ events Jayapal Yeah I ░░░░░░░░ what we decided is ░░░░░░░░ we really need to ░░░░░░░░ Americans understand what happens ░░░░░░░░ democracies fall when dictators ░░░░░░░░ over We ve been ░░░░░░░░ complacent in America We ░░░░░░░░ t had to really ░░░░░░░░ with this in any ░░░░░░░░ way And now I ░░░░░░░░ people need to understand ░░░░░░░░ are the lessons from ░░░░░░░░ countries And working with ░░░░░░░░ who have studied democratic ░░░░░░░░ in countries around the ░░░░░░░░ and the resistance movements ░░░░░░░░ emerged to take on ░░░░░░░░ democratic backsliding we ve ░░░░░░░░ a curriculum where we ░░░░░░░░ people understand how do ░░░░░░░░ go after the pillars ░░░░░░░░ support not necessarily the ░░░░░░░░ at the top but ░░░░░░░░ pillars of support that ░░░░░░░░ that person to continue ░░░░░░░░ have power and how ░░░░░░░░ you shift allies from ░░░░░░░░ sort of passive opponents ░░░░░░░░ being active supporters of ░░░░░░░░ down a dictatorship And ░░░░░░░░ it s been very ░░░░░░░░ it s been very ░░░░░░░░ on We ve taken ░░░░░░░░ principles of Dr King ░░░░░░░░ six principles of nonviolent ░░░░░░░░ That is threaded throughout ░░░░░░░░ we re going to ░░░░░░░░ a second training that ░░░░░░░░ deeper into what happens ░░░░░░░░ you are trying to ░░░░░░░░ nonviolent protests but others ░░░░░░░░ coming and instituting violence ░░░░░░░░ you Think of church ░░░░░░░░ across Selma Rachel all ░░░░░░░░ training that went into ░░░░░░░░ people And at the ░░░░░░░░ of the day we ░░░░░░░░ plugging people in both ░░░░░░░░ actions that are happening ░░░░░░░░ now in their locale ░░░░░░░░ they can get engaged ░░░░░░░░ but also preparing them ░░░░░░░░ the moments that will ░░░░░░░░ of coordinated resistance whether ░░░░░░░░ s distributed action or ░░░░░░░░ action that people need ░░░░░░░░ be ready for And ░░░░░░░░ re increasing the understanding ░░░░░░░░ also increases the ability ░░░░░░░░ people to think about ░░░░░░░░ more risk perhaps than ░░░░░░░░ might have otherwise because ░░░░░░░░ level of risk tolerance ░░░░░░░░ up based on how ░░░░░░░░ people think things are ░░░░░░░░ we re really readying ░░░░░░░░ for those big moments ░░░░░░░░ we hope don t ░░░░░░░░ but certainly look like ░░░░░░░░ is the direction that ░░░░░░░░ re headed MADDOW I ░░░░░░░░ like this is a ░░░░░░░░ important categorical shift that ░░░░░░░░ re talking about I ░░░░░░░░ like over these last ░░░░░░░░ days and into the ░░░░░░░░ a lot of what ░░░░░░░░ ve seen a lot ░░░░░░░░ the organizing that we ░░░░░░░░ seen has essentially been ░░░░░░░░ raising about how bad ░░░░░░░░ is about what is ░░░░░░░░ stake about how people ░░░░░░░░ being hurt about what ░░░░░░░░ dangerous hurtful potentially irreversible ░░░░░░░░ what s happening It ░░░░░░░░ all been sounding the ░░░░░░░░ What you are talking ░░░░░░░░ here and what these ░░░░░░░░ are about sort of ░░░░░░░░ that people get that ░░░░░░░░ now need to talk ░░░░░░░░ in practical terms what ░░░░░░░░ the most effective way ░░░░░░░░ respond to that It ░░░░░░░░ not necessarily that people ░░░░░░░░ to know the latest ░░░░░░░░ thing that Trump is ░░░░░░░░ People have now heard ░░░░░░░░ and they understand enough ░░░░░░░░ what the risk is ░░░░░░░░ that it s time ░░░░░░░░ get practical about what ░░░░░░░░ do in response I ░░░░░░░░ to ask given that ░░░░░░░░ of curriculum that you ░░░░░░░░ describing how replicable is ░░░░░░░░ Is this something that ░░░░░░░░ to happen in person ░░░░░░░░ this something that can ░░░░░░░░ in large format settings ░░░░░░░░ this something that should ░░░░░░░░ happen in small groups ░░░░░░░░ s the what s ░░░░░░░░ means of transmitting this ░░░░░░░░ and its lessons Jayapal ░░░░░░░░ That s the other ░░░░░░░░ We have created modules ░░░░░░░░ it can be replicated ░░░░░░░░ m offering it of ░░░░░░░░ to my colleagues here ░░░░░░░░ Congress But we re ░░░░░░░░ really testing this model ░░░░░░░░ first one was in ░░░░░░░░ as you said The ░░░░░░░░ one on Sunday was ░░░░░░░░ virtually But we encouraged ░░░░░░░░ to actually host house ░░░░░░░░ and Zoom into it ░░░░░░░░ the house party because ░░░░░░░░ breakout sessions there s ░░░░░░░░ a breakout session believe ░░░░░░░░ or not with hundreds ░░░░░░░░ you know over thousands ░░░░░░░░ people we can do ░░░░░░░░ breakout sessions and they ░░░░░░░░ important because people have ░░░░░░░░ test their analysis they ░░░░░░░░ to test their ideas ░░░░░░░░ there have been some ░░░░░░░░ ideas coming forward given ░░░░░░░░ frameworks that we re ░░░░░░░░ So we offer frameworks ░░░░░░░░ how to think about ░░░░░░░░ actions are most effective ░░░░░░░░ offer examples of those ░░░░░░░░ offer specific tactics but ░░░░░░░░ encourage people to be ░░░░░░░░ about the principle of ░░░░░░░░ they re trying to ░░░░░░░░ and then how to ░░░░░░░░ achieve it So the ░░░░░░░░ are important We can ░░░░░░░░ the whole training en ░░░░░░░░ without those breakouts But ░░░░░░░░ m also finding Rachel ░░░░░░░░ people really do want ░░░░░░░░ be in community with ░░░░░░░░ people and they want ░░░░░░░░ be talking to others ░░░░░░░░ being able to play ░░░░░░░░ of others is very ░░░░░░░░ useful So we are ░░░░░░░░ the technology on what ░░░░░░░░ allow us to have ░░░░░░░░ of people on beyond ░░░░░░░░ know the current technology ░░░░░░░░ we have access to ░░░░░░░░ we re doing it ░░░░░░░░ person We re also ░░░░░░░░ to figure out since ░░░░░░░░ have 31 states and ░░░░░░░░ the way two countries ░░░░░░░░ and Canada were also ░░░░░░░░ the Zoom the training ░░░░░░░░ we did on Sunday ░░░░░░░░ we re trying to ░░░░░░░░ out now how to ░░░░░░░░ the people in different ░░░░░░░░ right We had people ░░░░░░░░ Idaho calling in how ░░░░░░░░ we take all the ░░░░░░░░ people and group them ░░░░░░░░ And we re encouraging ░░░░░░░░ to sign up for ░░░░░░░░ next resistance lab training ░░░░░░░░ we re going to ░░░░░░░░ doing these and to ░░░░░░░░ people in their community ░░░░░░░░ because that sense of ░░░░░░░░ also helps to create ░░░░░░░░ you know kind of ░░░░░░░░ bigger coordinated resistance and ░░░░░░░░ sense of safety for ░░░░░░░░ to be able to ░░░░░░░░ things in big numbers ░░░░░░░░ we re really excited ░░░░░░░░ has just been literally ░░░░░░░░ weeks in the making ░░░░░░░░ we have an amazing ░░░░░░░░ It is replicable and ░░░░░░░░ re we re super ░░░░░░░░ to spread it as ░░░░░░░░ as we can go ░░░░░░░░ people can go to ░░░░░░░░ com to sign up ░░░░░░░░ When s the next ░░░░░░░░ When s the date ░░░░░░░░ you still got me ░░░░░░░░ ve lost her Jayapal ░░░░░░░░ Can you hear me ░░░░░░░░ I can I said ░░░░░░░░ s the next one ░░░░░░░░ I m right here ░░░░░░░░ When s when s ░░░░░░░░ date of the next ░░░░░░░░ Jayapal I think it ░░░░░░░░ going to be in ░░░░░░░░ weeks We haven t ░░░░░░░░ said it yet but ░░░░░░░░ you sign up right ░░░░░░░░ you will get an ░░░░░░░░ And I should mention ░░░░░░░░ have a resistance rapid ░░░░░░░░ email list that sends ░░░░░░░░ weekly to do s ░░░░░░░░ people as well as ░░░░░░░░ reading list to continue ░░░░░░░░ deepen people s understanding ░░░░░░░░ Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal thank ░░░░░░░░ for your time We ░░░░░░░░ be on this We ░░░░░░░░ cover the next one ░░░░░░░░ it happens Appreciate it ░░░░░░░░ you.”