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    Norm Eisen Appears on CNN’s ‘Erin Burnett OutFront’ to Discuss Trump Third Term
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    CNN

    Name: CNN

    URL: http://www.cnn.com/

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    Out Front with Erin Burnett (CNN)

    Name: Out Front with Erin Burnett (CNN)

    URL: https://www.cnn.com/shows/erin-burnett-out-front

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    Norman Eisen / Norm Eisen

    Name: Norman Eisen / Norm Eisen

    Employment: CNN

    Position: Legal Analyst

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    RUSH TRANSCRIPT Of course ░░░░░░░░ that Putin was president ░░░░░░░░ became prime minister while ░░░░░░░░ was president really a ░░░░░░░░ and then flipped back ░░░░░░░░ be president again out ░░░░░░░░ Now norm eisen former ░░░░░░░░ counsel to the house ░░░░░░░░ Committee in Trump s ░░░░░░░░ impeachment trial And Brian ░░░░░░░░ a law professor at ░░░░░░░░ state university who has ░░░░░░░░ about presidents seeking a ░░░░░░░░ term So Brian let ░░░░░░░░ start with you I ░░░░░░░░ you re not advocating ░░░░░░░░ this right I mean ░░░░░░░░ we re having a ░░░░░░░░ about it You do ░░░░░░░░ there is a way ░░░░░░░░ Trump to get around ░░░░░░░░ constitutional amendments and serve ░░░░░░░░ third term Well like ░░░░░░░░ tribe said The wording ░░░░░░░░ the 22nd amendment leaves ░░░░░░░░ for That interpretation There ░░░░░░░░ plenty of people who ░░░░░░░░ t interpret It that ░░░░░░░░ But ultimately It s ░░░░░░░░ about what I think ░░░░░░░░ one of those people ░░░░░░░░ It s what someone ░░░░░░░░ be able to get ░░░░░░░░ with What the voters ░░░░░░░░ Allow and what the ░░░░░░░░ might allow So you ░░░░░░░░ this ambiguity such that ░░░░░░░░ is an ambiguity between ░░░░░░░░ know coming in as ░░░░░░░░ vice presidential candidate as ░░░░░░░░ to the top of ░░░░░░░░ ticket that could be ░░░░░░░░ end around Yeah that ░░░░░░░░ the argument It says ░░░░░░░░ can t be elected ░░░░░░░░ than twice It doesn ░░░░░░░░ say you can t ░░░░░░░░ president After that And ░░░░░░░░ they were drafting it ░░░░░░░░ had language That said ░░░░░░░░ can t be president ░░░░░░░░ that And they changed ░░░░░░░░ So it s not ░░░░░░░░ this is This is ░░░░░░░░ accident But that s ░░░░░░░░ thing norm You could ░░░░░░░░ look elected versus serve ░░░░░░░░ is a rhetorical dance ░░░░░░░░ they never intended us ░░░░░░░░ take But then when ░░░░░░░░ look at the other ░░░░░░░░ that Brian makes perhaps ░░░░░░░░ was intentional ambiguity I ░░░░░░░░ that s the debate ░░░░░░░░ I m A little ░░░░░░░░ by Larry Tribe and ░░░░░░░░ kalt But I will ░░░░░░░░ you That I have ░░░░░░░░ vast majority Of constitutional ░░░░░░░░ on my side Thousands ░░░░░░░░ When you read the ░░░░░░░░ text no person shall ░░░░░░░░ elected to the office ░░░░░░░░ The president More than ░░░░░░░░ as the 22nd amendment ░░░░░░░░ you look over at ░░░░░░░░ 12th amendment No person ░░░░░░░░ ineligible in other words ░░░░░░░░ more than twice to ░░░░░░░░ office of president shall ░░░░░░░░ eligible to be vice ░░░░░░░░ So I think this ░░░░░░░░ like medieval debates of ░░░░░░░░ angels dancing On the ░░░░░░░░ of a pin I ░░░░░░░░ professor kalt Obviously Larry ░░░░░░░░ my mentor and frequent ░░░░░░░░ Wrong wrong wrong This ░░░░░░░░ a gigantic distraction by ░░░░░░░░ Trump to not talk ░░░░░░░░ the other things that ░░░░░░░░ bad for him Never ░░░░░░░░ Professor colton I know ░░░░░░░░ m not asking a ░░░░░░░░ question here but it ░░░░░░░░ the the fact that ░░░░░░░░ Trump talks about this ░░░░░░░░ and again that he ░░░░░░░░ this weekend he s ░░░░░░░░ joking that he talks ░░░░░░░░ there are methods whatever ░░░░░░░░ may be trying to ░░░░░░░░ Nor maybe you re ░░░░░░░░ But professor is it ░░░░░░░░ possible that that is ░░░░░░░░ giving permission to a ░░░░░░░░ swath of people around ░░░░░░░░ or who might vote ░░░░░░░░ him to believe in ░░░░░░░░ Absolutely That s the ░░░░░░░░ of constitutional interpretation It ░░░░░░░░ t matter Again what ░░░░░░░░ bunch of constitutional law ░░░░░░░░ think If there Is ░░░░░░░░ alternative interpretation and people ░░░░░░░░ to Latch on to ░░░░░░░░ constitutional interpretation delivers the ░░░░░░░░ result that they want ░░░░░░░░ and That s the ░░░░░░░░ s the issue here ░░░░░░░░ norm professor tribe also ░░░░░░░░ when we asked him ░░░░░░░░ told us to focus ░░░░░░░░ this He said that ░░░░░░░░ s quote role as ░░░░░░░░ oath breaking insurrectionist could ░░░░░░░░ him ineligible to run ░░░░░░░░ any public office under ░░░░░░░░ three of the 14th ░░░░░░░░ What do you think ░░░░░░░░ that norm Well that ░░░░░░░░ Aaron It s like ░░░░░░░░ read my mind people ░░░░░░░░ respect push that argument ░░░░░░░░ the Supreme Court Like ░░░░░░░░ argument that the Constitution ░░░░░░░░ is ambiguous and allows ░░░░░░░░ third term It lost ░░░░░░░░ to nothing If this ░░░░░░░░ to the Supreme Court ░░░░░░░░ will have a similar ░░░░░░░░ You know what the ░░░░░░░░ is That Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ t want to talk ░░░░░░░░ 46 courts democratic and ░░░░░░░░ across the country that ░░░░░░░░ slammed his other illegal ░░░░░░░░ that he s put ░░░░░░░░ executive orders and otherwise ░░░░░░░░ you know I ve ░░░░░░░░ involved in a lot ░░░░░░░░ that litigation one another ░░░░░░░░ order against him on ░░░░░░░░ This is a gigantic ░░░░░░░░ Don t fall for ░░░░░░░░ folks So professor kalt ░░░░░░░░ has talked about this ░░░░░░░░ times after and I ░░░░░░░░ to provide these examples ░░░░░░░░ m about to play ░░░░░░░░ all After he was ░░░░░░░░ in for a second ░░░░░░░░ Right So he was ░░░░░░░░ for the second time ░░░░░░░░ he said each of ░░░░░░░░ things Did I run ░░░░░░░░ You tell me I ░░░░░░░░ I m not allowed ░░░░░░░░ run again I m ░░░░░░░░ sure Am I allowed ░░░░░░░░ run again Mike It ░░░░░░░░ be the greatest honor ░░░░░░░░ my life to serve ░░░░░░░░ once but twice or ░░░░░░░░ times or four times ░░░░░░░░ professor do you think ░░░░░░░░ ultimately does go to ░░░░░░░░ would go to the ░░░░░░░░ Court I mean it ░░░░░░░░ hard to imagine a ░░░░░░░░ where you d be ░░░░░░░░ I mean a lot ░░░░░░░░ things could have happened ░░░░░░░░ that but is that ░░░░░░░░ possible Yeah Well again ░░░░░░░░ you said a lot ░░░░░░░░ things would have to ░░░░░░░░ People in the Republican ░░░░░░░░ that whose support he ░░░░░░░░ could say we re ░░░░░░░░ okay with this The ░░░░░░░░ could say they re ░░░░░░░░ okay with this But ░░░░░░░░ it happens if it ░░░░░░░░ once he s on ░░░░░░░░ ticket as a vice ░░░░░░░░ candidate or or there ░░░░░░░░ other ways to get ░░░░░░░░ the presidency Besides that ░░░░░░░░ s it is a ░░░░░░░░ awkward for the court ░░░░░░░░ s the Some suggestion ░░░░░░░░ there s some justiciability ░░░░░░░░ meaning the court s ░░░░░░░░ allowed to get into ░░░░░░░░ that it s up ░░░░░░░░ Congress to rule on ░░░░░░░░ So ultimately it comes ░░░░░░░░ to whether he has ░░░░░░░░ support to do it ░░░░░░░░ don t support The ░░░░░░░░ But if he has ░░░░░░░░ support to Do it ░░░░░░░░ s not as straightforward ░░░░░░░░ the Supreme Court to ░░░░░░░░ it as it was ░░░░░░░░ some of the other ░░░░░░░░ we ve seen courts ░░░░░░░░ Yeah well a lot ░░░░░░░░ a lot of things ░░░░░░░░ sometimes when you challenge ░░░░░░░░ you just
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