Richard Haass: The Good News Is That Trump for the First Time Evidenced Some Frustration with Vladimir Putin

BRZEZINSKI Now back to ░░░░░░░░ Richard and I ll ░░░░░░░░ take that at some ░░░░░░░░ what Liberation Day means ░░░░░░░░ what that means and ░░░░░░░░ use of that phrase ░░░░░░░░ in so many ways ░░░░░░░░ some other meanings But ░░░░░░░░ us a little bit ░░░░░░░░ these specific comments that ░░░░░░░░ Trump has made about ░░░░░░░░ What do they tell ░░░░░░░░ and do they ultimately ░░░░░░░░ the big picture mean ░░░░░░░░ HAASS Look the good ░░░░░░░░ is the president for ░░░░░░░░ first time evidenced some ░░░░░░░░ with Vladimir Putin who ░░░░░░░░ clearly stalling BRZEZINSKI Yeah ░░░░░░░░ You know Putin has ░░░░░░░░ the 30 day unconditional ░░░░░░░░ putting out all sorts ░░░░░░░░ other ideas with all ░░░░░░░░ of conditions He is ░░░░░░░░ serious about bringing this ░░░░░░░░ to an end because ░░░░░░░░ believes time is his ░░░░░░░░ He believes Russia s ░░░░░░░░ a little bit of ░░░░░░░░ and he knows that ░░░░░░░░ S support for Ukraine ░░░░░░░░ the road is uncertain ░░░░░░░░ Putin wants to test ░░░░░░░░ The problem with what ░░░░░░░░ president said is he ░░░░░░░░ the wrong remedy The ░░░░░░░░ is not secondary sanctions ░░░░░░░░ essentially means you would ░░░░░░░░ China India and Turkey ░░░░░░░░ three biggest importers of ░░░░░░░░ energy So we d ░░░░░░░░ bilateral issues with all ░░░░░░░░ them without really having ░░░░░░░░ significant impact on Russia ░░░░░░░░ economy We want to ░░░░░░░░ Vladimir Putin s calculus ░░░░░░░░ s not that hard ░░░░░░░░ we need to do ░░░░░░░░ announce that U S ░░░░░░░░ for Ukraine with military ░░░░░░░░ and intelligence support will ░░░░░░░░ on indefinitely so Ukraine ░░░░░░░░ defend itself This takes ░░░░░░░░ from Putin the argument ░░░░░░░░ time s on his ░░░░░░░░ BRZEZINSKI Right HAASS This ░░░░░░░░ we will support Ukraine ░░░░░░░░ if you do get ░░░░░░░░ a ceasefire we still ░░░░░░░░ to support Ukraine Why ░░░░░░░░ Russia is going to ░░░░░░░░ to produce arms and ░░░░░░░░ ready We don t ░░░░░░░░ a ceasefire to be ░░░░░░░░ We want a cessation ░░░░░░░░ hostilities to be permanent ░░░░░░░░ only way I know ░░░░░░░░ to do this Mika ░░░░░░░░ Mm hmm HAASS is ░░░░░░░░ the United States to ░░░░░░░░ up and essentially keep ░░░░░░░░ spigot open We can ░░░░░░░░ about how much and ░░░░░░░░ forth And you know ░░░░░░░░ defend Ukraine it s ░░░░░░░░ going to liberate Crimea ░░░░░░░░ the United States needs ░░░░░░░░ be steadfast in its ░░░░░░░░ for Ukraine That is ░░░░░░░░ signal that Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ to send to Vladimir ░░░░░░░░ Then he actually increases ░░░░░░░░ chance of getting this ░░░░░░░░ he so properly wants ░░░░░░░░ right now he has ░░░░░░░░ right idea but he ░░░░░░░░ going about it in ░░░░░░░░ the wrong way.”