Van Hollen: Trump Using ‘Secret Police’ Operations Like ‘Authoritarian Regimes’

Ago as we were ░░░░░░░░ on air a federal ░░░░░░░░ in Massachusetts has blocked ░░░░░░░░ government from deporting ozerk ░░░░░░░░ a ruling on her ░░░░░░░░ joining us now one ░░░░░░░░ the Democrats that sign ░░░░░░░░ letter we just mentioned ░░░░░░░░ Senator Chris Van Holland ░░░░░░░░ thank you for being ░░░░░░░░ us let s talk ░░░░░░░░ that video that we ░░░░░░░░ just watched the the ░░░░░░░░ ice agents use on ░░░░░░░░ and then for the ░░░░░░░░ 24 hours her location ░░░░░░░░ unknown even to her ░░░░░░░░ lawyers well Lis see ░░░░░░░░ re absolutely right look ░░░░░░░░ is a terrifying video ░░░░░░░░ was obviously terrifying for ░░░░░░░░ Miss urk it s ░░░░░░░░ terrifying for our country ░░░░░░░░ that you could have ░░░░░░░░ agents unidentified swoop in ░░░░░░░░ off the streets and ░░░░░░░░ disappear her uh to ░░░░░░░░ apparently against a court ░░░░░░░░ uh for exercising First ░░░░░░░░ rights this should not ░░░░░░░░ happening in America this ░░░░░░░░ the kind of secret ░░░░░░░░ operation 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individuals ░░░░░░░░ and that is illegal ░░░░░░░░ the First Amendment does ░░░░░░░░ individuals who are here ░░░░░░░░ in the United States ░░░░░░░░ let s talk about ░░░░░░░░ because The New York ░░░░░░░░ note that some of ░░░░░░░░ tactics that we are ░░░░░░░░ they re not particularly ░░░░░░░░ but what is Shifting ░░░░░░░░ the targets immigrants with ░░░░░░░░ visas and legal status ░░░░░░░░ fact that they are ░░░░░░░░ these theories Senator on ░░░░░░░░ who have one step ░░░░░░░░ from American citizenship they ░░░░░░░░ have a series of ░░░░░░░░ Protections in this country ░░░░░░░░ they are not being ░░░░░░░░ due process what should ░░░░░░░░ tell us about their ░░░░░░░░ of applying some of ░░░░░░░░ same Concepts ideas to ░░░░░░░░ citizens right as you ░░░░░░░░ see in cases of ░░░░░░░░ regimes that you know ░░░░░░░░ begin by focusing on ░░░░░░░░ the weakest links people ░░░░░░░░ they think have less ░░░░░░░░ and less protections um ░░░░░░░░ a first step for ░░░░░░░░ for everybody else and ░░░░░░░░ s why it s ░░░░░░░░ important that we take ░░░░░░░░ seriously not only to ░░░░░░░░ the rights of these ░░░░░░░░ but because this is ░░░░░░░░ slippery slope and I ░░░░░░░░ the Trump Administration clearly ░░░░░░░░ testing the limits of ░░░░░░░░ powers I think they ░░░░░░░░ very clearly overstepped their ░░░░░░░░ Powers uh in these ░░░░░░░░ I hope judges will ░░░░░░░░ them in um because ░░░░░░░░ are these are core ░░░░░░░░ now they are trying ░░░░░░░░ dig up McCarthy era ░░░░░░░░ in some cases and ░░░░░░░░ stretch their meaning be ░░░░░░░░ any plausible application you ░░░░░░░░ it s interesting I ░░░░░░░░ I am looking as ░░░░░░░░ came on a we ░░░░░░░░ this ruling that is ░░░░░░░░ to pause her her ░░░░░░░░ one the fact that ░░░░░░░░ case law they are ░░░░░░░░ is now Mamud Khalil ░░░░░░░░ you just how quickly ░░░░░░░░ is all happening the ░░░░░░░░ that it is falling ░░░░░░░░ these judges uh to ░░░░░░░░ be the ones to ░░░░░░░░ the brakes and actually ░░░░░░░░ some semblance of Justice ░░░░░░░░ this country what happens ░░░░░░░░ in cases like this ░░░░░░░░ we have seen in ░░░░░░░░ case of Venezuelan Nationals ░░░░░░░░ were deported to El ░░░░░░░░ this Administration chooses to ░░░░░░░░ court orders well that ░░░░░░░░ exactly right I mean ░░░░░░░░ they go over that ░░░░░░░░ wire it s going ░░░░░░░░ be very important for ░░░░░░░░ things to happen one ░░░░░░░░ judges need to exercise ░░░░░░░░ power to sanction individuals ░░░░░░░░ defy court orders I ░░░░░░░░ know that judges don ░░░░░░░░ want to take that ░░░░░░░░ but they really have ░░░░░░░░ uh and then it ░░░░░░░░ going to be important ░░░░░░░░ members of Congress on ░░░░░░░░ bipartisan basis to stand ░░░░░░░░ and protect the rule ░░░░░░░░ law now I I ░░░░░░░░ not seen Republicans doing ░░░░░░░░ to date right A ░░░░░░░░ of them will quietly ░░░░░░░░ concerns about what s ░░░░░░░░ but they re still ░░░░░░░░ afraid of a of ░░░░░░░░ statement or tweet from ░░░░░░░░ Trump or Elon Musk ░░░░░░░░ and that is terrifying ░░░░░░░░ if they can t ░░░░░░░░ up or won t ░░░░░░░░ up to protect the ░░░░░░░░ and the Constitution we ░░░░░░░░ in a very deep ░░░░░░░░ hole we re already ░░░░░░░░ but we are going ░░░░░░░░ dig ourselves deeper if ░░░░░░░░ don t stand up ░░░░░░░░ s why it s ░░░░░░░░ I ve said today ░░░░░░░░ we have to applaud ░░░░░░░░ stand up for the ░░░░░░░░ firms and the universities ░░░░░░░░ colleges that are standing ░░░░░░░░ to Trump s bullying ░░░░░░░░ we have to we ░░░░░░░░ to say that those ░░░░░░░░ are caving in um ░░░░░░░░ making a huge mistake ░░░░░░░░ s a short road ░░░░░░░░ Tony when people start ░░░░░░░░ into Donald Trump s ░░░░░░░░ illegal bullying I think ░░░░░░░░ when you talk about ░░░░░░░░ memos you talk about ░░░░░░░░ after law firms which ░░░░░░░░ fully agree is is ░░░░░░░░ and critical and it ░░░░░░░░ where we began this ░░░░░░░░ that can seem so ░░░░░░░░ and I think part ░░░░░░░░ what makes this story ░░░░░░░░ powerful is that when ░░░░░░░░ see video of government ░░░░░░░░ showing up on a ░░░░░░░░ and whisking a single ░░░░░░░░ away and not then ░░░░░░░░ not being transparent about ░░░░░░░░ they did it about ░░░░░░░░ it is they are ░░░░░░░░ her to there is ░░░░░░░░ just something much more ░░░░░░░░ about the response and ░░░░░░░░ wonder in light of ░░░░░░░░ surfacing of this video ░░░░░░░░ you have Republican colleagues ░░░░░░░░ have laid eyes on ░░░░░░░░ who also I know ░░░░░░░░ they don t want ░░░░░░░░ go out and say ░░░░░░░░ in public but have ░░░░░░░░ any reservation to you ░░░░░░░░ the way in which ░░░░░░░░ Administration is acting with ░░░░░░░░ so the short answer ░░░░░░░░ some privately um I ░░░░░░░░ next week I I ░░░░░░░░ going to directly approach ░░░░░░░░ of my Republican Senate ░░░░░░░░ uh who have said ░░░░░░░░ they are champions of ░░░░░░░░ First Amendment uh to ░░░░░░░░ together to make a ░░░░░░░░ statement about this and ░░░░░░░░ ll see what happens ░░░░░░░░ because you can t ░░░░░░░░ to be for the ░░░░░░░░ Amendment um and then ░░░░░░░░ for Cover uh as ░░░░░░░░ as it s violated ░░░░░░░░ the Trump Administration uh ░░░░░░░░ is exactly what s ░░░░░░░░ so this is one ░░░░░░░░ those moments Alicia and ░░░░░░░░ I do intend to ░░░░░░░░ at least some of ░░░░░░░░ Republican colleagues who say ░░░░░░░░ re Champions to the ░░░░░░░░ Amendment in free speech ░░░░░░░░ right Senator Chris Van ░░░░░░░░ next week we will ░░░░░░░░ eyes on you to ░░░░░░░░ how those conversations go ░░░░░░░░ you for taking the ░░░░░░░░ when we return no ░░░░░░░░ no no res