Newsom Blames ‘Supply Demand Imbalance’ for Building Homes in Texas Being Much Easier than in California

KLEIN And so the ░░░░░░░░ that I began thinking ░░░░░░░░ lot about was that ░░░░░░░░ is something liberalism is ░░░░░░░░ at and knows how ░░░░░░░░ look for which is ░░░░░░░░ can we subsidize something ░░░░░░░░ people need But there ░░░░░░░░ something liberalism is bad ░░░░░░░░ because it doesn t ░░░░░░░░ how to look for ░░░░░░░░ which is how do ░░░░░░░░ create more How do ░░░░░░░░ make it possible to ░░░░░░░░ more of things people ░░░░░░░░ And not only are ░░░░░░░░ not good at pursuing ░░░░░░░░ we don t even ░░░░░░░░ how often we are ░░░░░░░░ in the way of ░░░░░░░░ how often we are ░░░░░░░░ problem There is I ░░░░░░░░ something bracing as a ░░░░░░░░ about asking this question ░░░░░░░░ why in the places ░░░░░░░░ people who agree with ░░░░░░░░ govern you and I ░░░░░░░░ don t think have ░░░░░░░░ different politics Newsom Yeah ░░░░░░░░ Aren t the outcomes ░░░░░░░░ I want to see ░░░░░░░░ can t I go ░░░░░░░░ to the Texans or ░░░░░░░░ Floridians no no no ░░░░░░░░ You just have to ░░░░░░░░ our policies from California ░░░░░░░░ Right KLEIN And that ░░░░░░░░ the the thing I ░░░░░░░░ grappling with here Newsom ░░░░░░░░ and I appreciate that ░░░░░░░░ we ll get to ░░░░░░░░ question because I think ░░░░░░░░ s a fundamental question ░░░░░░░░ it s interesting what ░░░░░░░░ sort of define from ░░░░░░░░ prism that s important ░░░░░░░░ what people are actually ░░░░░░░░ for isn t necessarily ░░░░░░░░ you are identifying specifically ░░░░░░░░ would challenge as the ░░░░░░░░ That said what you ░░░░░░░░ as a problem I ░░░░░░░░ agree with that I ░░░░░░░░ going back to my ░░░░░░░░ My first speech as ░░░░░░░░ of the state of ░░░░░░░░ It might as well ░░░░░░░░ It s quoted in ░░░░░░░░ Newsom be in these ░░░░░░░░ Yeah literally So if ░░░░░░░░ can build a sports ░░░░░░░░ with these new rules ░░░░░░░░ fast track the judicial ░░░░░░░░ and what we refer ░░░░░░░░ and we ll get ░░░░░░░░ CEQA our California rules ░░░░░░░░ go back to quite ░░░░░░░░ Ronald Reagan in 1970 ░░░░░░░░ it relates to environmental ░░░░░░░░ it should work for ░░░░░░░░ It should work for ░░░░░░░░ And I announced that ░░░░░░░░ an effort to sue ░░░░░░░░ to 47 cities We ░░░░░░░░ with one Huntington Beach ░░░░░░░░ Doesn t make you ░░░░░░░░ as governor to announce ░░░░░░░░ lawsuit against the city ░░░░░░░░ they weren t meeting ░░░░░░░░ zoning requirements under our ░░░░░░░░ element So much of ░░░░░░░░ again reflected in this ░░░░░░░░ and your own reflected ░░░░░░░░ and lived experience in ░░░░░░░░ state of California But ░░░░░░░░ point is this as ░░░░░░░░ practitioner it s a ░░░░░░░░ different reality But what ░░░░░░░░ identify I completely embrace ░░░░░░░░ labyrinths of rules federal ░░░░░░░░ state rules absolutely localism ░░░░░░░░ And I want to ░░░░░░░░ about that Localism is ░░░░░░░░ And you you you ░░░░░░░░ on understandably San Francisco ░░░░░░░░ you can look at ░░░░░░░░ any city including a ░░░░░░░░ held city like Huntington ░░░░░░░░ KLEIN Mm hmm Newsom ░░░░░░░░ these same rules and ░░░░░░░░ apply there in the ░░░░░░░░ frustrations So from the ░░░░░░░░ of left versus right ░░░░░░░░ take the shot against ░░░░░░░░ but can t we ░░░░░░░░ that there is sort ░░░░░░░░ a quality of consideration ░░░░░░░░ that persists in rural ░░░░░░░░ red parts of the ░░░░░░░░ as well KLEIN Well ░░░░░░░░ let me let me ░░░░░░░░ this Because to shadowbox ░░░░░░░░ the fact that you ░░░░░░░░ more about California governance ░░░░░░░░ I ever will in ░░░░░░░░ thousand years Newsom Yeah ░░░░░░░░ of doing this would ░░░░░░░░ ridiculous Why is it ░░░░░░░░ to build homes in ░░░░░░░░ and California Newsom They ░░░░░░░░ well you establish that ░░░░░░░░ the book In Houston ░░░░░░░░ make the point I ░░░░░░░░ it was 70 000 ░░░░░░░░ in 2023 just 7 ░░░░░░░░ in a much smaller ░░░░░░░░ San Francisco but understandable ░░░░░░░░ KLEIN But a city ░░░░░░░░ more demand Newsom More ░░░░░░░░ And it s simply ░░░░░░░░ they have no zoning ░░░░░░░░ have land use considerations ░░░░░░░░ Houston KLEIN But Austin ░░░░░░░░ zoning Newsom Yeah but ░░░░░░░░ Houston in the context ░░░░░░░░ Yeah Newsom of that ░░░░░░░░ KLEIN The thing I ░░░░░░░░ getting at here which ░░░░░░░░ really would like your ░░░░░░░░ thing you just said ░░░░░░░░ about localism it s ░░░░░░░░ important And like this ░░░░░░░░ so much the conversation ░░░░░░░░ d love for us ░░░░░░░░ have here because Newsom ░░░░░░░░ KLEIN the texture that ░░░░░░░░ have been grappling with ░░░░░░░░ why do things that ░░░░░░░░ want to have happen ░░░░░░░░ happen Newsom Yeah yeah ░░░░░░░░ is I think a ░░░░░░░░ interesting thing to add ░░░░░░░░ it But when you ░░░░░░░░ saying well you know ░░░░░░░░ this really a problem ░░░░░░░░ liberals It s easier ░░░░░░░░ build in Texas and ░░░░░░░░ than not just in ░░░░░░░░ but in California or ░░░░░░░░ York Newsom Right KLEIN ░░░░░░░░ The cost of living ░░░░░░░░ is worse in blue ░░░░░░░░ And a little bit ░░░░░░░░ that is blue states ░░░░░░░░ a place a lot ░░░░░░░░ people want to live ░░░░░░░░ you should be able ░░░░░░░░ Newsom Yeah KLEIN in ░░░░░░░░ where governing for the ░░░░░░░░ class in theory keep ░░░░░░░░ cost of living Newsom ░░░░░░░░ your your point is ░░░░░░░░ point just to level ░░░░░░░░ people listening I completely ░░░░░░░░ this notion of the ░░░░░░░░ demand imbalance I mean ░░░░░░░░ re making an Econ ░░░░░░░░ argument KLEIN Mm hmm ░░░░░░░░ And that supply imbalance ░░░░░░░░ next level in the ░░░░░░░░ of California We re ░░░░░░░░ not building enough housing ░░░░░░░░ that goes to I ░░░░░░░░ and you correctly identify ░░░░░░░░ and people you know ░░░░░░░░ protection racket so to ░░░░░░░░ not just from a ░░░░░░░░ perspective but someone who ░░░░░░░░ very satisfied with their ░░░░░░░░ and their views and ░░░░░░░░ home and their community ░░░░░░░░ don t want density ░░░░░░░░ don t want other ░░░░░░░░ moving in They don ░░░░░░░░ want any infrastructure built ░░░░░░░░ it as it relates ░░░░░░░░ transportation KLEIN Mm hmm ░░░░░░░░ They re very satisfied ░░░░░░░░ what they have And ░░░░░░░░ think and they abuse ░░░░░░░░ some respects a lot ░░░░░░░░ these rules that have ░░░░░░░░ around decades and decades.”