Jeffrey Goldberg: Trump Defied a Court Order on the Movement of Illegal Aliens, Why Is That Not a Constitutional Crisis?

Goldberg Right Just to ░░░░░░░░ something you re talking ░░░░░░░░ I want you to ░░░░░░░░ listen to the president ░░░░░░░░ a bit ominous on ░░░░░░░░ subject of judges he ░░░░░░░░ t like Clip starts ░░░░░░░░ We have very bad ░░░░░░░░ and these are judges ░░░░░░░░ shouldn t be allowed ░░░░░░░░ think they I think ░░░░░░░░ a certain point you ░░░░░░░░ to start looking at ░░░░░░░░ do you do when ░░░░░░░░ have a rogue judge ░░░░░░░░ ends Goldberg So you ░░░░░░░░ obviously this is comments ░░░░░░░░ these are what prompted ░░░░░░░░ chief justice of the ░░░░░░░░ States John Roberts to ░░░░░░░░ rebuke the president and ░░░░░░░░ you know you don ░░░░░░░░ almost like Schoolhouse Rock ░░░░░░░░ you don t get ░░░░░░░░ of judges because you ░░░░░░░░ with him That s ░░░░░░░░ the system But you ░░░░░░░░ David you said something ░░░░░░░░ You said when it ░░░░░░░░ to the Supreme Court ░░░░░░░░ he defies the Supreme ░░░░░░░░ But Michael we have ░░░░░░░░ situation right now where ░░░░░░░░ seemed to be defying ░░░░░░░░ judge at the district ░░░░░░░░ level about a live ░░░░░░░░ That was the movement ░░░░░░░░ illegal aliens immigrants undocumented ░░░░░░░░ gang members et cetera ░░░░░░░░ of the country So ░░░░░░░░ is that not a ░░░░░░░░ crisis SCHERER Well I ░░░░░░░░ say it s not ░░░░░░░░ constitutional crisis because that ░░░░░░░░ is still having hearings ░░░░░░░░ was another hearing today ░░░░░░░░ was a hearing yesterday ░░░░░░░░ could put sanctions on ░░░░░░░░ government next week if ░░░░░░░░ finds against the president ░░░░░░░░ could then appeal those ░░░░░░░░ and that s how ░░░░░░░░ process works That s ░░░░░░░░ we roll through Now ░░░░░░░░ s not unheard of ░░░░░░░░ a litigant before a ░░░░░░░░ would defy a judge ░░░░░░░░ would be unheard of ░░░░░░░░ if it goes to ░░░░░░░░ end of the road ░░░░░░░░ David said especially in ░░░░░░░░ court where you know ░░░░░░░░ of the nine recently ░░░░░░░░ in Trump s favor ░░░░░░░░ Trump in the election ░░░░░░░░ case and three of ░░░░░░░░ he appointed So if ░░░░░░░░ defies this court that ░░░░░░░░ be a remarkable moment ░░░░░░░░ think Goldberg So Eugene ░░░░░░░░ agree that it s ░░░░░░░░ a crisis yet It ░░░░░░░░ just probing a bit ░░░░░░░░ Not a constitutional crisis ░░░░░░░░ think a lot of ░░░░░░░░ would say it is ░░░░░░░░ type of crisis No ░░░░░░░░ I think they re ░░░░░░░░ like we have a ░░░░░░░░ And the apex of ░░░░░░░░ the peak of it ░░░░░░░░ in that crash is ░░░░░░░░ we re at the ░░░░░░░░ of the road as ░░░░░░░░ was just saying and ░░░░░░░░ re not there yet ░░░░░░░░ doesn t appear that ░░░░░░░░ re slowing down this ░░░░░░░░ House They continue to ░░░░░░░░ like you know we ░░░░░░░░ going to do what ░░░░░░░░ judges say but then ░░░░░░░░ have the president saying ░░░░░░░░ other things so there ░░░░░░░░ these conflicting messages And ░░░░░░░░ think the most important ░░░░░░░░ of this is there ░░░░░░░░ three branches of government ░░░░░░░░ They are supposed to ░░░░░░░░ co equal branches of ░░░░░░░░ The legislative Branch also ░░░░░░░░ a hand to play ░░░░░░░░ if Donald Trump is ░░░░░░░░ let s say at ░░░░░░░░ end of the day ░░░░░░░░ the Supreme Court and ░░░░░░░░ what does whatever he ░░░░░░░░ to do then you ░░░░░░░░ the legislative Branch that ░░░░░░░░ supposed to do something ░░░░░░░░ Congress should step in ░░░░░░░░ do something as a ░░░░░░░░ of that But you ░░░░░░░░ to be co equal ░░░░░░░░ has to agree they ░░░░░░░░ co equal And at ░░░░░░░░ point the Republicans in ░░░░░░░░ are just fine with ░░░░░░░░ Trump telling them what ░░░░░░░░ do.”