RUSH TRANSCRIPT MSNBC The ░░░░░░░░ defamation league is out ░░░░░░░░ its new campus anti ░░░░░░░░ report card for 2025 ░░░░░░░░ an overwhelming majority of ░░░░░░░░ students on U S ░░░░░░░░ campuses reported incidents of ░░░░░░░░ attacks threats and harassment ░░░░░░░░ year In all 135 ░░░░░░░░ and universities were assessed ░░░░░░░░ 30 evaluation criteria 36 ░░░░░░░░ schools got a grade ░░░░░░░░ either a or b ░░░░░░░░ received a d and ░░░░░░░░ 10 got an f ░░░░░░░░ 45 of schools did ░░░░░░░░ improvement compared to last ░░░░░░░░ Let s bring in ░░░░░░░░ CEO of the anti ░░░░░░░░ league Jonathan Greenblatt Jonathan ░░░░░░░░ great to have you ░░░░░░░░ and talk to you ░░░░░░░░ things gotten better since ░░░░░░░░ height of the ugliness ░░░░░░░░ saw a year ago ░░░░░░░░ Look I mean we ░░░░░░░░ still living through this ░░░░░░░░ surge of anti Semitism ░░░░░░░░ campuses are still a ░░░░░░░░ of it Now in ░░░░░░░░ ways it is better ░░░░░░░░ mean the truth of ░░░░░░░░ matter is that Willie ░░░░░░░░ just aren t as ░░░░░░░░ demonstrations as there were ░░░░░░░░ year And yet those ░░░░░░░░ we have the intensity ░░░░░░░░ real What we saw ░░░░░░░░ barnard college right here ░░░░░░░░ New York City last ░░░░░░░░ where like a phalanx ░░░░░░░░ masked protesters stormed the ░░░░░░░░ assaulted a staff person ░░░░░░░░ literally would not leave ░░░░░░░░ facility forcing the administrators ░░░░░░░░ actually Went in And ░░░░░░░░ to these kids dressed ░░░░░░░░ like ISIS fighters and ░░░░░░░░ with them It s ░░░░░░░░ So you still have ░░░░░░░░ lot of problems I ░░░░░░░░ to think that 30 ░░░░░░░░ percent of the schools ░░░░░░░░ d s or f ░░░░░░░░ and we re talking ░░░░░░░░ places like Columbia and ░░░░░░░░ we re talking about ░░░░░░░░ prestigious institutions There s ░░░░░░░░ way that should happen ░░░░░░░░ America As I said ░░░░░░░░ the numbers 45 of ░░░░░░░░ have improved over the ░░░░░░░░ year What changes have ░░░░░░░░ made to earn a ░░░░░░░░ grade This is one ░░░░░░░░ the biggest takeaways So ░░░░░░░░ we originally did this ░░░░░░░░ schools wouldn t work ░░░░░░░░ us And they said ░░░░░░░░ wasn t a good ░░░░░░░░ They didn t want ░░░░░░░░ be graded Well guess ░░░░░░░░ In the last year ░░░░░░░░ of the universities worked ░░░░░░░░ ADL to improve their ░░░░░░░░ to make sure their ░░░░░░░░ got trained on antisemitism ░░░░░░░░ they do on racism ░░░░░░░░ misogyny to make sure ░░░░░░░░ their staff people got ░░░░░░░░ and to enforce consequences ░░░░░░░░ we should talk about ░░░░░░░░ The schools that got ░░░░░░░░ s like vanderbilt where ░░░░░░░░ Daniel Diermeier has been ░░░░░░░░ amazing leader or Alabama ░░░░░░░░ fiu or Elon university ░░░░░░░░ you have small schools ░░░░░░░░ big state schools But ░░░░░░░░ s different Leadership leaders ░░░░░░░░ lead and set a ░░░░░░░░ example create a cascading ░░░░░░░░ throughout the institution And ░░░░░░░░ know they can go ░░░░░░░░ vanderbilt or the university ░░░░░░░░ Miami or Alabama and ░░░░░░░░ can learn without fear ░░░░░░░░ being harassed and victimized ░░░░░░░░ because of you know ░░░░░░░░ they pray or who ░░░░░░░░ are In just moments ░░░░░░░░ actually Donald Trump posted ░░░░░░░░ Truth Social saying that ░░░░░░░░ federal funding will stop ░░░░░░░░ any college school university ░░░░░░░░ allows illegal protests And ░░░░░░░░ doesn t quite go ░░░░░░░░ to say what s ░░░░░░░░ And there s no ░░░░░░░░ of anti Semitism here ░░░░░░░░ of course there s ░░░░░░░░ place for anti Semitism ░░░░░░░░ is a place for ░░░░░░░░ protests in this in ░░░░░░░░ country So in terms ░░░░░░░░ your list though yeah ░░░░░░░░ s not clear what ░░░░░░░░ this Trump tweet of ░░░░░░░░ few moments ago You ░░░░░░░░ the schools that have ░░░░░░░░ short that still have ░░░░░░░░ your estimation failing grades ░░░░░░░░ where have they what ░░░░░░░░ they lacking What can ░░░░░░░░ change Well Number one ░░░░░░░░ need to enforce their ░░░░░░░░ So again if students ░░░░░░░░ being harassed if they ░░░░░░░░ being assaulted if their ░░░░░░░░ rooms are being vandalized ░░░░░░░░ they re being screamed ░░░░░░░░ in classes the students ░░░░░░░░ commit those kinds of ░░░░░░░░ should be suspended I ░░░░░░░░ that may sound like ░░░░░░░░ small thing Jonathan but ░░░░░░░░ s a big deal ░░░░░░░░ most of these schools ░░░░░░░░ institutions they re simply ░░░░░░░░ doing that So number ░░░░░░░░ enforce the policies that ░░░░░░░░ Jewish kids to learn ░░░░░░░░ peace I think number ░░░░░░░░ make sure that you ░░░░░░░░ treating all the kids ░░░░░░░░ same So again if ░░░░░░░░ have orientation where kids ░░░░░░░░ about bias and bigotry ░░░░░░░░ Semitism needs to be ░░░░░░░░ the table And then ░░░░░░░░ three if you have ░░░░░░░░ or organizations like students ░░░░░░░░ justice in Palestine whose ░░░░░░░░ point is to harass ░░░░░░░░ Jewish classmates those organizations ░░░░░░░░ t belong on campuses ░░░░░░░░ should be expelled So ░░░░░░░░ is that so hard ░░░░░░░░ think most rational people ░░░░░░░░ this right now go ░░░░░░░░ is a university still ░░░░░░░░ you just said negotiating ░░░░░░░░ people who harass students ░░░░░░░░ at students in some ░░░░░░░░ break property And you ░░░░░░░░ vanderbilt I m an ░░░░░░░░ of vanderbilt and I ░░░░░░░░ chancellor diermeier a friend ░░░░░░░░ from the beginning last ░░░░░░░░ said we re not ░░░░░░░░ our heads in the ░░░░░░░░ We re going to ░░░░░░░░ dialogs about this We ░░░░░░░░ going to invite people ░░░░░░░░ both sides of the ░░░░░░░░ in Gaza and have ░░░░░░░░ and you can ask ░░░░░░░░ questions and we re ░░░░░░░░ to talk about it ░░░░░░░░ our classes and all ░░░░░░░░ that But what you ░░░░░░░░ t do is harass ░░░░░░░░ fellow students You can ░░░░░░░░ break into buildings you ░░░░░░░░ t injure people And ░░░░░░░░ you do you re ░░░░░░░░ suspended or you re ░░░░░░░░ Why is that so ░░░░░░░░ for some schools I ░░░░░░░░ you got me I ░░░░░░░░ there are a few ░░░░░░░░ that are going on ░░░░░░░░ think number one you ░░░░░░░░ radicalized faculty in a ░░░░░░░░ of these institutions We ░░░░░░░░ trying to sort of ░░░░░░░░ the 60s and have ░░░░░░░░ rigid intemperate views about ░░░░░░░░ state of Israel or ░░░░░░░░ and conflate those things ░░░░░░░░ we re seeing it ░░░░░░░░ across the board That ░░░░░░░░ just unacceptable And then ░░░░░░░░ two it s some ░░░░░░░░ like Columbia the governance ░░░░░░░░ upside down So faculty ░░░░░░░░ faculty Senate actually has ░░░░░░░░ decide on the penalties ░░░░░░░░ to students rather than ░░░░░░░░ administrators So that creates ░░░░░░░░ problem as well But ░░░░░░░░ do think your point ░░░░░░░░ viewpoint diversity really matters ░░░░░░░░ black at Dartmouth has ░░░░░░░░ an amazing job of ░░░░░░░░ too You bring kids ░░░░░░░░ who may have different ░░░░░░░░ in a normal peaceful ░░░░░░░░ way to talk that ░░░░░░░░ That s what we ░░░░░░░░ Kids go to college ░░░░░░░░ learn how to be ░░░░░░░░ not how to train ░░░░░░░░ to be guerrillas And ░░░░░░░░ need less of that ░░░░░░░░ more of the former ░░░░░░░░ we ll take some ░░░░░░░░ in the fact that ░░░░░░░░ are getting better Some ░░░░░░░░ them anyway According to ░░░░░░░░ report