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    Ben Rhodes: J.D. Vance Criticizing Zelenskyy Is ‘Russian Propaganda’ (clip)
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    Chris Jansing Reports (MSNBC)

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    Chris Jansing

    Name: Chris Jansing

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    , Ben Rhodes

    Name: Ben Rhodes

    Employment: White House

    Position: Deputy National Security Advisor, Assistant to the President

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    03/03/2025 03:19 pm
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    JANSING I don t ░░░░░░░░ anybody who pays any ░░░░░░░░ is expecting that there ░░░░░░░░ suddenly be a major ░░░░░░░░ But is there a ░░░░░░░░ to sort of move ░░░░░░░░ back a little bit ░░░░░░░░ by that I mean ░░░░░░░░ example we know it ░░░░░░░░ seem obvious but the ░░░░░░░░ deal was not signed ░░░░░░░░ that President Trump said ░░░░░░░░ wanted something that he ░░░░░░░░ to say I was ░░░░░░░░ to make this deal ░░░░░░░░ m a deal maker ░░░░░░░░ also has what the ░░░░░░░░ House sees as an ░░░░░░░░ They were able to ░░░░░░░░ in the Oval Office ░░░░░░░░ call the president of ░░░░░░░░ one of our traditional ░░░░░░░░ Ukraine ungrateful and disrespectful ░░░░░░░░ look tough to his ░░░░░░░░ Is there a way ░░░░░░░░ those things come together ░░░░░░░░ takes that what the ░░░░░░░░ House considers to be ░░░░░░░░ win and in fact ░░░░░░░░ White House has posted ░░░░░░░░ they see it as ░░░░░░░░ and then come back ░░░░░░░░ the table And by ░░░░░░░░ way does Marco Rubio ░░░░░░░░ you know play any ░░░░░░░░ in all this do ░░░░░░░░ think RHODES Well first ░░░░░░░░ all there is you ░░░░░░░░ Ukraine is a warring ░░░░░░░░ They don t have ░░░░░░░░ agree to peace So ░░░░░░░░ what Trump wants is ░░░░░░░░ be able to say ░░░░░░░░ he ended the war ░░░░░░░░ ended the fighting the ░░░░░░░░ have to stop fighting ░░░░░░░░ this is a country ░░░░░░░░ was planning potential guerrilla ░░░░░░░░ at the outset of ░░░░░░░░ war if Kyiv had ░░░░░░░░ And so I think ░░░░░░░░ Europe and Ukraine it ░░░░░░░░ making clear wait a ░░░░░░░░ like you ve excluded ░░░░░░░░ from the negotiating table ░░░░░░░░ you actually want to ░░░░░░░░ what you say and ░░░░░░░░ you kept promising people ░░░░░░░░ actually have to include ░░░░░░░░ And we ve learned ░░░░░░░░ your cards are to ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump s analogy ░░░░░░░░ if your cards are ░░░░░░░░ Russia then Europe and ░░░░░░░░ have some cards to ░░░░░░░░ you know because Ukraine ░░░░░░░░ in this war I ░░░░░░░░ also say the lesson ░░░░░░░░ you re not going ░░░░░░░░ charm Trump I mean ░░░░░░░░ just we ve been ░░░░░░░░ this the first time ░░░░░░░░ I get why Macron ░░░░░░░░ Starmer came You d ░░░░░░░░ to think you can ░░░░░░░░ Trump but you have ░░░░░░░░ show some strength here ░░░░░░░░ terms of what your ░░░░░░░░ position is I get ░░░░░░░░ some people are going ░░░░░░░░ say Zelenskyy handled this ░░░░░░░░ I m not going ░░░░░░░░ sit here in my ░░░░░░░░ house and say that ░░░░░░░░ man who is the ░░░░░░░░ of a country that ░░░░░░░░ seen 20 000 of ░░░░░░░░ children kidnapped and taken ░░░░░░░░ Russia and seen tens ░░░░░░░░ tens of thousands of ░░░░░░░░ killed seen war crimes ░░░░░░░░ in the grossest way ░░░░░░░░ places like Bucha seen ░░░░░░░░ hospitals bombed do you ░░░░░░░░ you would have the ░░░░░░░░ to sit there and ░░░░░░░░ humiliated and see your ░░░░░░░░ humiliated to say that ░░░░░░░░ re propagandators as J ░░░░░░░░ Vance said when people ░░░░░░░░ Ukraine and see horrible ░░░░░░░░ It s not propagandators ░░░░░░░░ s true That s ░░░░░░░░ reality of what s ░░░░░░░░ in Ukraine The propaganda ░░░░░░░░ what s coming out ░░░░░░░░ J D Vance s ░░░░░░░░ and it s Russian ░░░░░░░░ And so I think ░░░░░░░░ that circumstance you re ░░░░░░░░ to see you know ░░░░░░░░ Ukraine and Europe essentially ░░░░░░░░ to a common position ░░░░░░░░ that you re essentially ░░░░░░░░ a negotiation between Europe ░░░░░░░░ Ukraine and Russia and ░░░░░░░░ United States And it ░░░░░░░░ pains me as an ░░░░░░░░ to say that but ░░░░░░░░ s that s where ░░░░░░░░ are.”
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