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Joseph Moreno Appears on BBC World News To Discuss Trump
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BBC World News (UK, Worldwide)

Name: BBC World News (UK, Worldwide)
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Joseph Moreno

Name: Joseph Moreno
Employment: SAP National Security Services
Position: General Counsel
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RUSH TRANSCRIPT With the ░░░░░░░░ here Jonah and Joe ░░░░░░░░ still with us it ░░░░░░░░ kind of hard to ░░░░░░░░ about much of what ░░░░░░░░ on earlier in this ░░░░░░░░ because there s a ░░░░░░░░ that what we ve ░░░░░░░░ here today Joe really ░░░░░░░░ the conversation about what ░░░░░░░░ from here out It ░░░░░░░░ like years ago arrived ░░░░░░░░ just the opposite From ░░░░░░░░ this week yeah I ░░░░░░░░ looks so much it ░░░░░░░░ great that we have ░░░░░░░░ cordial relationship with with ░░░░░░░░ U K and the ░░░░░░░░ of Europe It s ░░░░░░░░ your tremendous allies to ░░░░░░░░ but yeah Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ to realize that what ░░░░░░░░ in other parts of ░░░░░░░░ world will affect our ░░░░░░░░ and so I think ░░░░░░░░ s super important to ░░░░░░░░ it solid We are ░░░░░░░░ are We have to ░░░░░░░░ allies as as we ░░░░░░░░ with Canada was not ░░░░░░░░ well right now with ░░░░░░░░ and so this is ░░░░░░░░ just it s so ░░░░░░░░ strategically as far as ░░░░░░░░ as humanitarian values Well ░░░░░░░░ the us Russia from ░░░░░░░░ it s empire in ░░░░░░░░ Europe it is so ░░░░░░░░ to do That and ░░░░░░░░ think I hope that ░░░░░░░░ European allies do put ░░░░░░░░ on us to fulfill ░░░░░░░░ obligations that we ve ░░░░░░░░ over the decades That ░░░░░░░░ have taken on the ░░░░░░░░ are making sure that ░░░░░░░░ Russia does not get ░░░░░░░░ encroach further and I ░░░░░░░░ if we drop that ░░░░░░░░ I think that it ░░░░░░░░ only come back to ░░░░░░░░ us later When you ░░░░░░░░ mentioning Canada there to ░░░░░░░░ prime minister Justin Trudeau ░░░░░░░░ posted on x Russia ░░░░░░░░ and on justifiably invaded ░░░░░░░░ says Mr Trudeau For ░░░░░░░░ years now Ukrainians have ░░░░░░░░ with courage and resilience ░░░░░░░░ fight for democracy freedom ░░░░░░░░ sovereignty is a fight ░░░░░░░░ matters to us all ░░░░░░░░ Canada will continue to ░░░░░░░░ with Ukraine and Ukrainians ░░░░░░░░ achieving a just and ░░░░░░░░ peace and that message ░░░░░░░░ one of countless messages ░░░░░░░░ have come from world ░░░░░░░░ to present landscape pledging ░░░░░░░░ free crane in the ░░░░░░░░ of what we saw ░░░░░░░░ Jonah plot Is this ░░░░░░░░ to mean for or ░░░░░░░░ s relations beyond dash ░░░░░░░░ Ukraine for the transatlantic ░░░░░░░░ even for relationship with ░░░░░░░░ When we hear those ░░░░░░░░ from Justin Trudeau Yeah ░░░░░░░░ Katrina we re we ░░░░░░░░ seeing real all fracture ░░░░░░░░ the president of United ░░░░░░░░ and at least half ░░░░░░░░ the American people Let ░░░░░░░░ remember the elephant in ░░░░░░░░ room right now is ░░░░░░░░ fact that the us ░░░░░░░░ is the process of ░░░░░░░░ dismantled by the world ░░░░░░░░ wealthiest man This is ░░░░░░░░ This is not normal ░░░░░░░░ And so many Americans ░░░░░░░░ don t really see ░░░░░░░░ political leaders whether democratic ░░░░░░░░ Republican standing up to ░░░░░░░░ So when we see ░░░░░░░░ of other countries whether ░░░░░░░░ prime minister of great ░░░░░░░░ own United Kingdom where ░░░░░░░░ lose money mccraw wilderness ░░░░░░░░ Justin Trudeau now of ░░░░░░░░ presidential in school the ░░░░░░░░ of Americans who went ░░░░░░░░ the polls and voted ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump of the ░░░░░░░░ to do that Lot ░░░░░░░░ look at our friends ░░░░░░░░ allies overseas feel as ░░░░░░░░ they re saying things ░░░░░░░░ or own leaders can ░░░░░░░░ really say And our ░░░░░░░░ at the f t ░░░░░░░░ reporting that presents Landscape ░░░░░░░░ had a phone call ░░░░░░░░ the French president my ░░░░░░░░ and that he s ░░░░░░░░ spoken to the secretary ░░░░░░░░ of NATO quota in ░░░░░░░░ aftermath of the missing ░░░░░░░░ at the White House ░░░░░░░░ I just want to ░░░░░░░░ the words that President ░░░░░░░░ said after that he ░░░░░░░░ on his social media ░░░░░░░░ Truth Social actually posting ░░░░░░░░ while the Ukrainian president ░░░░░░░░ still here in the ░░░░░░░░ House some before he ░░░░░░░░ left and he said ░░░░░░░░ had a very meaningful ░░░░░░░░ in the white has ░░░░░░░░ much was learned that ░░░░░░░░ never be understood without ░░░░░░░░ under such fire and ░░░░░░░░ It s a maze ░░░░░░░░ what comes out through ░░░░░░░░ and I have determined ░░░░░░░░ presents Lansky is not ░░░░░░░░ for peace If America ░░░░░░░░ involved because he feels ░░░░░░░░ involvement gives him a ░░░░░░░░ advantage in negotiations I ░░░░░░░░ t want advantage I ░░░░░░░░ peace he disrespected the ░░░░░░░░ States of America in ░░░░░░░░ s cherished Oval Office ░░░░░░░░ can come back Back ░░░░░░░░ he is ready for ░░░░░░░░ and Joe that goes ░░░░░░░░ what you were saying ░░░░░░░░ about President Trump and ░░░░░░░░ much ways he puts ░░░░░░░░ loyalty and respect Do ░░░░░░░░ think though on some ░░░░░░░░ what we saw here ░░░░░░░░ particularly the role of ░░░░░░░░ vice president that maybe ░░░░░░░░ was somewhat coordination It ░░░░░░░░ some odd intentional Yes ░░░░░░░░ s definitely a strong ░░░░░░░░ of a lot of ░░░░░░░░ theatrical and it was ░░░░░░░░ not spontaneously but it ░░░░░░░░ planned in advance Again ░░░░░░░░ to appeal to Donald ░░░░░░░░ supporters were not into ░░░░░░░░ foreign adventurism They see ░░░░░░░░ being caught very few ░░░░░░░░ being laid off and ░░░░░░░░ re So why are ░░░░░░░░ spending hundreds of billions ░░░░░░░░ dollars overseas when we ░░░░░░░░ have you here and ░░░░░░░░ don t really get ░░░░░░░░ global strategic value was ░░░░░░░░ on crime So I ░░░░░░░░ think some of this ░░░░░░░░ probably Play acting to ░░░░░░░░ audience Well something that ░░░░░░░░ be received by maybe ░░░░░░░░ American public will people ░░░░░░░░ recoil around the rest ░░░░░░░░ the world s or ░░░░░░░░ than Donald Trump when ░░░░░░░░ right there cause for ░░░░░░░░ m a conservative Republican ░░░░░░░░ of guy but I ░░░░░░░░ not offended of I ░░░░░░░░ we basically been embarrassing ░░░░░░░░ a world I think ░░░░░░░░ really need to clean ░░░░░░░░ And how do you ░░░░░░░░ that to her How ░░░░░░░░ he do it Probably ░░░░░░░░ the eat some crow ░░░░░░░░ has to come back ░░░░░░░░ the table and realize ░░░░░░░░ is not gonna just ░░░░░░░░ handed a deal by ░░░░░░░░ ones to you as ░░░░░░░░ t put your duty ░░░░░░░░ represent his own country ░░░░░░░░ I I think a ░░░░░░░░ deals a great idea ░░░░░░░░ I think it gives ░░░░░░░░ an economic stake in ░░░░░░░░ That then gives us ░░░░░░░░ in It gives us ░░░░░░░░ reason to defender but ░░░░░░░░ understand that presence alone ░░░░░░░░ once you start relinquishing ░░░░░░░░ over a valuable asset ░░░░░░░░ country is going to ░░░░░░░░ some security guarantees I ░░░░░░░░ probably do the same ░░░░░░░░ of I was the ░░░░░░░░ of a foreign country ░░░░░░░░ I think both have ░░░░░░░░ come back the table ░░░░░░░░ What s he going ░░░░░░░░ happen qaeda way in ░░░░░░░░ part of being differential ░░░░░░░░ gone from likes that ░░░░░░░░ from hopefully we re ░░░░░░░░ get past His own ░░░░░░░░ is that you know ░░░░░░░░ I see There is ░░░░░░░░ benefit not just for ░░░░░░░░ but for the whole ░░░░░░░░ and I do want ░░░░░░░░ make this happen And ░░░░░░░░ we saw a post ░░░░░░░░ x five presents a ░░░░░░░░ little after he left ░░░░░░░░ White House here thanking ░░░░░░░░ present for the meeting ░░░░░░░░ the United States for ░░░░░░░░ s support thus far ░░░░░░░░ Jonah How critical is ░░░░░░░░ for Ukraine and for ░░░░░░░░ s prospects and for ░░░░░░░░ that European that wider ░░░░░░░░ back against Russia that ░░░░░░░░ relationship is repaired Will ░░░░░░░░ can t be repair ░░░░░░░░ will be one hundred ░░░░░░░░ transactional as long as ░░░░░░░░ Trump is umbrella Jones ░░░░░░░░ there is not going ░░░░░░░░ be any American support ░░░░░░░░ Ukraine That is not ░░░░░░░░ the basis of what ░░░░░░░░ you know for for ░░░░░░░░ as Donald Trump understands ░░░░░░░░ tour or kim all ░░░░░░░░ survive Yes I think ░░░░░░░░ is all European leaders ░░░░░░░░ expressed very accurately Europe ░░░░░░░░ provided more support for ░░░░░░░░ career than the U ░░░░░░░░ hers and Ukrainian people ░░░░░░░░ can keep on fighting ░░░░░░░░ long as they have ░░░░░░░░ Will the U s ░░░░░░░░ a reliable partner know ░░░░░░░░ course not Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ made that abundantly clear ░░░░░░░░ be a transactional partner ░░░░░░░░ ah but I think ░░░░░░░░ real the new realities ░░░░░░░░ obvious to everyone And ░░░░░░░░ is one of those ░░░░░░░░ realities that potentially the ░░░░░░░░ alliance is also under ░░░░░░░░ Now Very much so ░░░░░░░░ was explicit in the ░░░░░░░░ from term Trump s ░░░░░░░░ national security adviser John ░░░░░░░░ said explicitly that Donald ░░░░░░░░ wanted to get out ░░░░░░░░ later use A Donald ░░░░░░░░ said that he encouraged ░░░░░░░░ bruton to invade NATO ░░░░░░░░ and I I don ░░░░░░░░ think there s any ░░░░░░░░ a leader that that ░░░░░░░░ on the certainty of ░░░░░░░░ States effectively coming to ░░░░░░░░ aid of NATO allies ░░░░░░░░ hope that this is ░░░░░░░░ put to the test ░░░░░░░░ I don t think ░░░░░░░░ can really help much ░░░░░░░░ faith or confidence in ░░░░░░░░ Okay well lots more ░░░░░░░░ discuss about what has ░░░░░░░░ a seismic day here ░░░░░░░░ the White House but ░░░░░░░░ ll have to leave ░░░░░░░░ there for at the ░░░░░░░░ joan a blank and ░░░░░░░░ moreno thanks as always ░░░░░░░░ being with us here ░░░░░░░░ this program, I can hear
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