Michael Knowles Debates PBS Host, Defending His Position that Transgenderism Should Be Eradicated from Public Life

HOST You mentioned you ░░░░░░░░ think there s a ░░░░░░░░ of progressive overreach that ░░░░░░░░ propel President Trump back ░░░░░░░░ the White House And ░░░░░░░░ to that you ve ░░░░░░░░ transgenderism in particular one ░░░░░░░░ those issues that you ░░░░░░░░ KNOWLES Yeah HOST moved ░░░░░░░░ and moved the needle ░░░░░░░░ ve also said previously ░░░░░░░░ it should be eradicated ░░░░░░░░ public life entirely And ░░░░░░░░ you were asked about ░░░░░░░░ you said that you ░░░░░░░░ calling for an end ░░░░░░░░ the ideology not for ░░░░░░░░ end to the people ░░░░░░░░ Yeah HOST If you ░░░░░░░░ changed your view at ░░░░░░░░ please let me know ░░░░░░░░ No HOST but I ░░░░░░░░ I will confess I ░░░░░░░░ t know what the ░░░░░░░░ is when articulated like ░░░░░░░░ So could you explain ░░░░░░░░ KNOWLES Sure If I ░░░░░░░░ that I want to ░░░░░░░░ poverty I m not ░░░░░░░░ that I want to ░░░░░░░░ all the poor people ░░░░░░░░ the opposite I would ░░░░░░░░ to help the poor ░░░░░░░░ by eradicating poverty And ░░░░░░░░ when I made my ░░░░░░░░ at CPAC a couple ░░░░░░░░ ago I ve now ░░░░░░░░ repeated it so many ░░░░░░░░ I think I have ░░░░░░░░ memorized I said for ░░░░░░░░ good of society and ░░░░░░░░ for the good of ░░░░░░░░ poor people who have ░░░░░░░░ prey to this confusion ░░░░░░░░ must be eradicated from ░░░░░░░░ life entirely the whole ░░░░░░░░ ideology at every level ░░░░░░░░ the reason for this ░░░░░░░░ reason why I would ░░░░░░░░ in particular for those ░░░░░░░░ have fallen prey to ░░░░░░░░ ideology that we ought ░░░░░░░░ do that is because ░░░░░░░░ can t really become ░░░░░░░░ That s not how ░░░░░░░░ nature works I have ░░░░░░░░ great deal of sympathy ░░░░░░░░ people who are confused ░░░░░░░░ their sex but I ░░░░░░░░ t think it helps ░░░░░░░░ to lie to them ░░░░░░░░ just as a matter ░░░░░░░░ public life I think ░░░░░░░░ need to respect reality ░░░░░░░░ I will say as ░░░░░░░░ you re saying that ░░░░░░░░ s reality It is ░░░░░░░░ belief system that you ░░░░░░░░ I mean transgenderism is ░░░░░░░░ that has been acknowledged ░░░░░░░░ medical professionals There s ░░░░░░░░ entire body KNOWLES And ░░░░░░░░ by medical professionals HOST ░░░░░░░░ a few There s ░░░░░░░░ entire body of scientific ░░░░░░░░ medical knowledge that backs ░░░░░░░░ up And that s ░░░░░░░░ gender affirming care has ░░░░░░░░ been based on KNOWLES ░░░░░░░░ really HOST in recent ░░░░░░░░ KNOWLES Not really HOST ░░░░░░░░ will just ask you ░░░░░░░░ though We re talking ░░░░░░░░ about 1 percent of ░░░░░░░░ U S adult population ░░░░░░░░ KNOWLES 30 percent of ░░░░░░░░ Z self identifies as ░░░░░░░░ HOST Because more people ░░░░░░░░ believe are comfortable coming ░░░░░░░░ and sharing the crosstalk ░░░░░░░░ Or because it s ░░░░░░░░ social contagion HOST You ░░░░░░░░ transgender people make other ░░░░░░░░ transgender Is that what ░░░░░░░░ re saying KNOWLES This ░░░░░░░░ also backed up in ░░░░░░░░ medical literature There was ░░░░░░░░ study in 2018 that ░░░░░░░░ that school children who ░░░░░░░░ socializing with people who ░░░░░░░░ as transgender are much ░░░░░░░░ likely to identify as ░░░░░░░░ themselves HOST Michael you ░░░░░░░░ this is the same ░░░░░░░░ people made about gay ░░░░░░░░ right KNOWLES Well I ░░░░░░░░ talking about the whole ░░░░░░░░ ideology So I suppose ░░░░░░░░ some ways say I ░░░░░░░░ making that argument crosstalk ░░░░░░░░ You don t believe ░░░░░░░░ gay people exist KNOWLES ░░░░░░░░ it again HOST You ░░░░░░░░ t belive gay people ░░░░░░░░ KNOWLES Well I think ░░░░░░░░ have same sex attractions ░░░░░░░░ all of that but ░░░░░░░░ suppose the question I ░░░░░░░░ have to ask is ░░░░░░░░ But that is no ░░░░░░░░ and answer to my ░░░░░░░░ Do you believe that ░░░░░░░░ people exist KNOWLES I ░░░░░░░░ some people are attracted ░░░░░░░░ members of the same ░░░░░░░░ Yeah HOST That would ░░░░░░░░ gay people correct KNOWLES ░░░░░░░░ I don t think ░░░░░░░░ one s sexual desires ░░░░░░░░ define one s identity ░░░░░░░░ Without getting into a ░░░░░░░░ back and forth about ░░░░░░░░ I I in clarifying ░░░░░░░░ you have said when ░░░░░░░░ use words like eradicate ░░░░░░░░ m just asking about ░░░░░░░░ terms of the language ░░░░░░░░ KNOWLES Yeah yeah HOST ░░░░░░░░ you use words like ░░░░░░░░ KNOWLES Well you know ░░░░░░░░ the word eradicate means ░░░░░░░░ do you worry that ░░░░░░░░ a target on people ░░░░░░░░ backs KNOWLES Certainly not ░░░░░░░░ fact the the only ░░░░░░░░ that I ve had ░░░░░░░░ my own back or ░░░░░░░░ I question these kinds ░░░░░░░░ ideologies that have been ░░░░░░░░ terrible for people The ░░░░░░░░ times I ve ever ░░░░░░░░ attacked in public in ░░░░░░░░ case of someone is ░░░░░░░░ federal prison for trying ░░░░░░░░ blow me up at ░░░░░░░░ speech in Pittsburgh is ░░░░░░░░ I dared to question ░░░░░░░░ trans ideology People are ░░░░░░░░ introduced to this ideology ░░░░░░░░ younger and younger ages ░░░░░░░░ can lead to horrific ░░░░░░░░ especially for younger people ░░░░░░░░ on puberty blockers which ░░░░░░░░ cannot be reversed leads ░░░░░░░░ castration bone problems and ░░░░░░░░ death These are not ░░░░░░░░ sort of things that ░░░░░░░░ should wish for people ░░░░░░░░ we wish for their ░░░░░░░░ good And and so ░░░░░░░░ what it really comes ░░░░░░░░ to is whether or ░░░░░░░░ a man can become ░░░░░░░░ woman or a man ░░░░░░░░ secretly be a woman ░░░░░░░░ he appears to be ░░░░░░░░ man And my contention ░░░░░░░░ that just isn t ░░░░░░░░ human nature works HOST ░░░░░░░░ m just going to ░░░░░░░░ you did say it ░░░░░░░░ your contention I would ░░░░░░░░ people to go check ░░░░░░░░ the research and studies ░░░░░░░░ their own.”