Ed Luce: Article 5 of NATO ‘Is Essentially Dead’ Under Trump

KAY Do you think ░░░░░░░░ Europe could step in ░░░░░░░░ I mean you listen ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump They should ░░░░░░░░ have started this is ░░░░░░░░ point of view on ░░░░░░░░ Will Europe be able ░░░░░░░░ step in LUCE I ░░░░░░░░ it s less unlikely ░░░░░░░░ it was a week ░░░░░░░░ KAY Mm hmm I ░░░░░░░░ LUCE before J D ░░░░░░░░ spoke to European leaders ░░░░░░░░ Munich and generated more ░░░░░░░░ moments in more languages ░░░░░░░░ think than any vice ░░░░░░░░ address in history from ░░░░░░░░ audience But Europe getting ░░░░░░░░ and becoming an integrated ░░░░░░░░ defense entity is a ░░░░░░░░ of years It s ░░░░░░░░ project that will take ░░░░░░░░ to 10 years It ░░░░░░░░ t answer the needs ░░░░░░░░ of European security in ░░░░░░░░ event that America essentially ░░░░░░░░ the plug I think ░░░░░░░░ is I think Article ░░░░░░░░ of NATO is essentially ░░░░░░░░ I mean if I ░░░░░░░░ a Baltic country or ░░░░░░░░ and was spending more ░░░░░░░░ 3 percent of GDP ░░░░░░░░ fact more than the ░░░░░░░░ S is spending on ░░░░░░░░ I would say well ░░░░░░░░ presumably that means Article ░░░░░░░░ applies to us that ░░░░░░░░ have a full security ░░░░░░░░ from the United States ░░░░░░░░ don t think Donald ░░░░░░░░ s answer would be ░░░░░░░░ right answer I think ░░░░░░░░ everybody in Europe knows ░░░░░░░░ is planning to agree ░░░░░░░░ vivisection of Ukraine in ░░░░░░░░ they take the Americans ░░░░░░░░ some critical minerals the ░░░░░░░░ keep what they ve ░░░░░░░░ and it s just ░░░░░░░░ short term freeze of ░░░░░░░░ conflict that Russia will ░░░░░░░░ the line complete I ░░░░░░░░ that s what everybody ░░░░░░░░ Europe knows and therefore ░░░░░░░░ is an existential moment ░░░░░░░░ Europe It should be ░░░░░░░░ up I m just ░░░░░░░░ bit skeptical it s ░░░░░░░░ to do that quickly.”