Anne Applebaum: DOGE Is ‘Traumatizing’ Staff of USAID

SIDNER I do want ░░░░░░░░ ask you about this ░░░░░░░░ DOGE has this website ░░░░░░░░ s sort of set ░░░░░░░░ like X or formerly ░░░░░░░░ as Twitter where they ░░░░░░░░ what they have saved ░░░░░░░░ And they list a ░░░░░░░░ of different things You ░░░░░░░░ issue with some of ░░░░░░░░ things that they have ░░░░░░░░ and the way that ░░░░░░░░ have described them to ░░░░░░░░ public Give me some ░░░░░░░░ of what you have ░░░░░░░░ in some of the ░░░░░░░░ they have listed for ░░░░░░░░ condoms to Gaza which ░░░░░░░░ out not to be ░░░░░░░░ the Gaza that everyone ░░░░░░░░ talking about that is ░░░░░░░░ war but in another ░░░░░░░░ APPLEBAUM Nor was it ░░░░░░░░ 000 in condoms But ░░░░░░░░ there have been clearly ░░░░░░░░ statements about payments to ░░░░░░░░ about payments to Chelsea ░░░░░░░░ about condoms for Gaza ░░░░░░░░ has also been a ░░░░░░░░ of smear campaign conducted ░░░░░░░░ USAID which has been ░░░░░░░░ United States premier institution ░░░░░░░░ for distributing humanitarian aid ░░░░░░░░ the world helping the ░░░░░░░░ people on the planet ░░░░░░░░ also been really important ░░░░░░░░ the promotion of democracy ░░░░░░░░ parts of the world ░░░░░░░░ the U S has ░░░░░░░░ about It s been ░░░░░░░░ really important tool of ░░░░░░░░ foreign policy And Musk ░░░░░░░░ sometimes leaked things and ░░░░░░░░ revealed things that were ░░░░░░░░ known I mean most ░░░░░░░░ the information about USAID ░░░░░░░░ has been available on ░░░░░░░░ websites forever If you ░░░░░░░░ to know something about ░░░░░░░░ you could have found ░░░░░░░░ last year But the ░░░░░░░░ of doing this seems ░░░░░░░░ have been to traumatize ░░░░░░░░ people who work for ░░░░░░░░ and also to traumatize ░░░░░░░░ who work for other ░░░░░░░░ institutions I mean everybody ░░░░░░░░ what happened right that ░░░░░░░░ was from one day ░░░░░░░░ the next destroyed This ░░░░░░░░ a congressionally created institution ░░░░░░░░ Congress had no voice ░░░░░░░░ destroying it And its ░░░░░░░░ were smeared and its ░░░░░░░░ were distorted And now ░░░░░░░░ who works for any ░░░░░░░░ part of the federal ░░░░░░░░ knows that the same ░░░░░░░░ could happen to them ░░░░░░░░ the purpose of doing ░░░░░░░░ right at the beginning ░░░░░░░░ something like foreign aid ░░░░░░░░ is maybe less well ░░░░░░░░ than it should be ░░░░░░░░ most Americans the purpose ░░░░░░░░ doing that was to ░░░░░░░░ other people and to ░░░░░░░░ other people in other ░░░░░░░░ of the government aware ░░░░░░░░ at any moment they ░░░░░░░░ be the targets of ░░░░░░░░ kind of campaign too ░░░░░░░░ Anne Applebaum thank you ░░░░░░░░ much Appreciate it You ░░░░░░░░ this whole article in ░░░░░░░░ Atlantic Appreciate your time ░░░░░░░░ morning. Kate?”