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Ben Rhodes: ‘In Europe, Trump Is a Very Disruptive Force and You See the Rise of These Far-Right Parties’ (clip)
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Morning Joe
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Ben Rhodes
, Peter Baker
Name: Ben Rhodes
Employment: White House
Position: Deputy National Security Advisor, Assistant to the President
Name: Peter Baker
Employment: The New York Times
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02/10/2025 12:13 pm
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BAKER Ben hi it ░░░░░░░░ Peter Baker I wonder ░░░░░░░░ you could go a ░░░░░░░░ further on what you ░░░░░░░░ about Ukraine because I ░░░░░░░░ actually Ukraine is one ░░░░░░░░ where he has sort ░░░░░░░░ kept to the more ░░░░░░░░ view of his party ░░░░░░░░ should we be spending ░░░░░░░░ on somebody else s ░░░░░░░░ Let s not you ░░░░░░░░ invest anymore in their ░░░░░░░░ There s talk that ░░░░░░░░ Trump will have a ░░░░░░░░ with President Putin sometime ░░░░░░░░ coming days Zelenskyy I ░░░░░░░░ is in Munich where ░░░░░░░░ President Vance is What ░░░░░░░░ you see happening there ░░░░░░░░ what are the implications ░░░░░░░░ he tries to force ░░░░░░░░ end of the war ░░░░░░░░ terms that are more ░░░░░░░░ to the Kremlin RHODES ░░░░░░░░ mean thus far I ░░░░░░░░ people are waiting for ░░░░░░░░ shoe to drop We ░░░░░░░░ not seen a withdrawal ░░░░░░░░ assistance We ve not ░░░░░░░░ any significant change in ░░░░░░░░ behavior with respect to ░░░░░░░░ It may be and ░░░░░░░░ think there s a ░░░░░░░░ of hope you talk ░░░░░░░░ people in Europe Peter ░░░░░░░░ I do that Trump ░░░░░░░░ actually escalate a little ░░░░░░░░ here to try to ░░░░░░░░ things into a negotiation ░░░░░░░░ for the time being ░░░░░░░░ idea that the U ░░░░░░░░ is kind of a ░░░░░░░░ in those talks for ░░░░░░░░ We re kind of ░░░░░░░░ behind them saying make ░░░░░░░░ that you know to ░░░░░░░░ Kremlin make sure that ░░░░░░░░ deal you give these ░░░░░░░░ can at least pass ░░░░░░░░ can at least get ░░░░░░░░ Ukrainians to say yes ░░░░░░░░ s still holding Again ░░░░░░░░ concern is the impact ░░░░░░░░ Trump is having not ░░░░░░░░ on foreign policy but ░░░░░░░░ politics itself inside of ░░░░░░░░ West Because the United ░░░░░░░░ even if he s ░░░░░░░░ that at the table ░░░░░░░░ Kremlin Vladimir Putin knows ░░░░░░░░ re not going to ░░░░░░░░ giving Ukraine assistance in ░░░░░░░░ years three years or ░░░░░░░░ years In Europe Trump ░░░░░░░░ a very disruptive force ░░░░░░░░ you see the rise ░░░░░░░░ these far right parties ░░░░░░░░ the AFD in Germany ░░░░░░░░ Elon Musk is boosting ░░░░░░░░ could care less about ░░░░░░░░ some of whom are ░░░░░░░░ hostile to Ukraine People ░░░░░░░░ Viktor Orban his closest ░░░░░░░░ in Europe Trump s ░░░░░░░░ ally has been pretty ░░░░░░░░ friendly to Putin s ░░░░░░░░ when it comes to ░░░░░░░░ So even if we ░░░░░░░░ saying the right things ░░░░░░░░ I just worry where ░░░░░░░░ politics is going It ░░░░░░░░ not a place in ░░░░░░░░ Ukraine can feel that ░░░░░░░░ in commitments it gets ░░░░░░░░ Europe and the United ░░░░░░░░
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