Bill Gates: I’m Hopeful Trump Will See the ‘Moral and Strategic Value’ of USAID Like in HIV Programs

COOPER Well let s ░░░░░░░░ with Elon Musk He ░░░░░░░░ called USAID a criminal ░░░░░░░░ He called it evil ░░░░░░░░ talked about it s ░░░░░░░░ radical left political psyop ░░░░░░░░ to you what is ░░░░░░░░ importance of USAID and ░░░░░░░░ U S giving aid ░░░░░░░░ people in need around ░░░░░░░░ world GATES Well USAID ░░░░░░░░ a super important role ░░░░░░░░ dispensing our aid budget ░░░░░░░░ is less than 1 ░░░░░░░░ the government budget Usually ░░░░░░░░ s pretty obscure So ░░░░░░░░ this is a chance ░░░░░░░░ talk about okay some ░░░░░░░░ that work we d ░░░░░░░░ to change but overall ░░░░░░░░ s work that saves ░░░░░░░░ of lives and you ░░░░░░░░ helps strengthen relationships for ░░░░░░░░ United States COOPER If ░░░░░░░░ s just moved into ░░░░░░░░ State Department does that ░░░░░░░░ GATES No the exact ░░░░░░░░ can change It was ░░░░░░░░ separate so the idea ░░░░░░░░ helping the poorest you ░░░░░░░░ have you know a ░░░░░░░░ priority for that in ░░░░░░░░ And I m not ░░░░░░░░ know against some degree ░░░░░░░░ tuning but you know ░░░░░░░░ all those people not ░░░░░░░░ into work and characterizing ░░░░░░░░ whole thing in a ░░░░░░░░ way I m a ░░░░░░░░ disappointed in that COOPER ░░░░░░░░ me ask you about ░░░░░░░░ as well because this ░░░░░░░░ a program which George ░░░░░░░░ Bush started It has ░░░░░░░░ more than 20 million ░░░░░░░░ s lives around the ░░░░░░░░ since then Is it ░░░░░░░░ you are you is ░░░░░░░░ done now I mean ░░░░░░░░ it is it paused ░░░░░░░░ There were 48 hours ░░░░░░░░ drug disbursement was shut ░░░░░░░░ and then that was ░░░░░░░░ And now the challenge ░░░░░░░░ that the employees who ░░░░░░░░ that work aren t ░░░░░░░░ let into the office ░░░░░░░░ you know so we ░░░░░░░░ a bit up in ░░░░░░░░ air When I saw ░░░░░░░░ Trump just after Christmas ░░░░░░░░ HIV programs and the ░░░░░░░░ they bring and the ░░░░░░░░ that I also support ░░░░░░░░ programs so you know ░░░░░░░░ a lot of time ░░░░░░░░ make sure that money ░░░░░░░░ very well spent that ░░░░░░░░ a strong message that ░░░░░░░░ gave him and I ░░░░░░░░ know I m hopeful ░░░░░░░░ he ll see both ░░░░░░░░ moral and strategic value ░░░░░░░░ keep this strong COOPER ░░░░░░░░ think there s a ░░░░░░░░ value to it as ░░░░░░░░ GATES Absolutely If you ░░░░░░░░ around Africa and you ░░░░░░░░ you know who really ░░░░░░░░ them out who helped ░░░░░░░░ deal with the HIV ░░░░░░░░ and has maintained that ░░░░░░░░ they re uniquely thankful ░░░░░░░░ the United States COOPER ░░░░░░░░ PEPFAR stops what would ░░░░░░░░ GATES You d have ░░░░░░░░ to 10 million deaths ░░░░░░░░ it was stopped abruptly ░░░░░░░░ know I thought the ░░░░░░░░ would be about could ░░░░░░░░ cut it by 10 ░░░░░░░░ the next several years ░░░░░░░░ look there s a ░░░░░░░░ of demands on the ░░░░░░░░