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    Paul Krugman: There’s Definitely ‘Sane-Washing’ by NYT Regarding Trump (clip)
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    MSNBC

    Name: MSNBC

    URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

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    The Beat With Ari Melber

    Name: The Beat With Ari Melber

    URL: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-live-ari-melber

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    Paul Krugman

    Name: Paul Krugman

    Employment: Princeton University and New York Times

    Position: Professor and Columnist

    , Ari Melber

    Name: Ari Melber

    Employment: MSNBC

    Position: Co-host

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    02/04/2025 07:22 am
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    RUSH TRANSCRIPT Yeah Well ░░░░░░░░ you put it starkly ░░░░░░░░ is why we wanted ░░░░░░░░ it s a big ░░░░░░░░ We wanted to get ░░░░░░░░ understanding of it And ░░░░░░░░ economic expert before I ░░░░░░░░ you go you left ░░░░░░░░ a long time with ░░░░░░░░ New York Times We ░░░░░░░░ that on air You ░░░░░░░░ your newsletter now and ░░░░░░░░ ve sort of written ░░░░░░░░ there for those who ░░░░░░░░ interested in the circumstances ░░░░░░░░ your departure do you ░░░░░░░░ that The New York ░░░░░░░░ and other media quite ░░░░░░░░ are taking up the ░░░░░░░░ approach and being sort ░░░░░░░░ without fear or favor ░░░░░░░░ to cover this administration ░░░░░░░░ has threatened journalists which ░░░░░░░░ as we ve covered ░░░░░░░░ after the rule of ░░░░░░░░ in various ways Is ░░░░░░░░ any thoughts you want ░░░░░░░░ share about that at ░░░░░░░░ former employer at the ░░░░░░░░ or how the journalistic ░░░░░░░░ should approach this right ░░░░░░░░ I mean You know ░░░░░░░░ conventional news media are ░░░░░░░░ So I You know ░░░░░░░░ depend upon the reporting ░░░░░░░░ my old employer I ░░░░░░░░ upon the reporting from ░░░░░░░░ news organizations but there ░░░░░░░░ definitely scene washing That ░░░░░░░░ on Definitely an unwillingness ░░░░░░░░ Just flatly report the ░░░░░░░░ We have A crazy ░░░░░░░░ that Was true During ░░░░░░░░ campaigns even more So ░░░░░░░░ And it really if ░░░░░░░░ you do is Read ░░░░░░░░ papers that you don ░░░░░░░░ you Don t get ░░░░░░░░ of that So this ░░░░░░░░ Why you know I ░░░░░░░░ happy to be now ░░░░░░░░ to you know have ░░░░░░░░ fairly Substantial subscription base ░░░░░░░░ and be Able to ░░░░░░░░ about this stuff without ░░░░░░░░ trying to sound moderate ░░░░░░░░ sensible because These are ░░░░░░░░ Moderate and sensible times ░░░░░░░░ to be clear I ░░░░░░░░ t want to put ░░░░░░░░ words in your mouth ░░░░░░░░ a journalist you mentioned ░░░░░░░░ washing or the sort ░░░░░░░░ approach of giving excessive ░░░░░░░░ not entirely factual credence ░░░░░░░░ something for empirical or ░░░░░░░░ reasons Are you concerned ░░░░░░░░ that s happening in ░░░░░░░░ outlets Are you concerned ░░░░░░░░ s happening at The ░░░░░░░░ York Times Oh I ░░░░░░░░ yes I mean I ░░░░░░░░ sorry I don t ░░░░░░░░ To trash my employer ░░░░░░░░ know do Not drop ░░░░░░░░ subscription to The New ░░░░░░░░ Times as an essential ░░░░░░░░ source But you definitely ░░░░░░░░ it Takes the form ░░░░░░░░ a Sort of flattening ░░░░░░░░ everything becomes you don ░░░░░░░░ get the full sense ░░░░░░░░ don t You just ░░░░░░░░ t I mean did ░░░░░░░░ if you read about ░░░░░░░░ Musk s attack on ░░░░░░░░ The critical agency did ░░░░░░░░ read that he called ░░░░░░░░ evil that he said ░░░░░░░░ of the staff Are ░░░░░░░░ Wing marxists who hate ░░░░░░░░ I think You probably ░░░░░░░░ not have Seen that ░░░░░░░░ if It was downplayed ░░░░░░░░ was in paragraph 19 ░░░░░░░░ that s what I ░░░░░░░░ t think The media ░░░░░░░░ Adequately conveying About what ░░░░░░░░ happening now Really interesting ░░░░░░░░ krugman, thank you for joining
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