Juliet Huddy on Signing O’Reilly NDA: ‘Not Necessarily the Best Move’

RUSH TRANSCRIPT KELLY Welcome ░░░░░░░░ Two people at the ░░░░░░░░ of the sexual harassment ░░░░░░░░ in the sexual harassment ░░░░░░░░ at Fox News Is ░░░░░░░░ And juliddy a former ░░░░░░░░ News anchor who accused ░░░░░░░░ O Reilly of misconduct ░░░░░░░░ to see you HUDDY ░░░░░░░░ to see you I ░░░░░░░░ trying to keep it ░░░░░░░░ That was amazing by ░░░░░░░░ way KELLY Thank you ░░░░░░░░ worked together for years ░░░░░░░░ did bill and I ░░░░░░░░ a as did you ░░░░░░░░ bill It s hard ░░░░░░░░ about this HUDDY I ░░░░░░░░ tell you re affected ░░░░░░░░ it KELLY Right HUDDY ░░░░░░░░ Women who have to ░░░░░░░░ with this type of ░░░░░░░░ it s everything you ░░░░░░░░ is so true The ░░░░░░░░ of lawyers no offense ░░░░░░░░ up against corporate attorneys ░░░░░░░░ who are trained at ░░░░░░░░ and educated at Yale ░░░░░░░░ oxford You re one ░░░░░░░░ about to go up ░░░░░░░░ a machine It is ░░░░░░░░ and frightening And it ░░░░░░░░ it holds you back ░░░░░░░░ taking action sometimes KELLY ░░░░░░░░ s not just you ░░░░░░░░ I talked specifically about ░░░░░░░░ media relations chief at ░░░░░░░░ News with whom I ░░░░░░░░ along for years until ░░░░░░░░ didn t back Ailes ░░░░░░░░ then things changed And ░░░░░░░░ everywhere understand that they ░░░░░░░░ be shame They cannot ░░░░░░░░ be sued They can ░░░░░░░░ shamed in ways that ░░░░░░░░ fingerprints on it and ░░░░░░░░ not have fingerprints on ░░░░░░░░ Doug WIGDOR Irena Briganti ░░░░░░░░ been doing this for ░░░░░░░░ She s still there ░░░░░░░░ have a big playbook ░░░░░░░░ that s a central ░░░░░░░░ of it She has ░░░░░░░░ victims who like Scottie ░░░░░░░░ who accused Charles Payne ░░░░░░░░ rape Outed her to ░░░░░░░░ tabloid You look at ░░░░░░░░ story And it was ░░░░░░░░ excellent piece of journalism ░░░░░░░░ The New York Times ░░░░░░░░ look at that piece ░░░░░░░░ hubris that fox showed ░░░░░░░░ knowing all of the ░░░░░░░░ harassment victims and what ░░░░░░░░ going on to not ░░░░░░░░ renew bill O Reilly ░░░░░░░░ contract but they gave ░░░░░░░░ a pay raise to ░░░░░░░░ It is just incredible ░░░░░░░░ They claim Fox News ░░░░░░░░ they knew he had ░░░░░░░░ with lis but didn ░░░░░░░░ know the terms WIGDOR ░░░░░░░░ The times article they ░░░░░░░░ a copy of the ░░░░░░░░ sheet That s the ░░░░░░░░ terms to the agreement ░░░░░░░░ without the dollar value ░░░░░░░░ did the executives What ░░░░░░░░ the murdochs know and ░░░░░░░░ did they know it ░░░░░░░░ whattests have they taken ░░░░░░░░ deprive the shareholders and ░░░░░░░░ government the U S ░░░░░░░░ s office One thing ░░░░░░░░ saw in the affidavit ░░░░░░░░ in the term sheet ░░░░░░░░ that evidence was destroyed ░░░░░░░░ part of this agreement ░░░░░░░░ Let s settle the ░░░░░░░░ and you get rid ░░░░░░░░ all of the e ░░░░░░░░ and the text messages ░░░░░░░░ Exactly It makes it ░░░░░░░░ Bill O Reilly can ░░░░░░░░ on Matt Lauer s ░░░░░░░░ My 42 years it ░░░░░░░░ been great If you ░░░░░░░░ paying off victims you ░░░░░░░░ holding money over their ░░░░░░░░ for years stringing it ░░░░░░░░ over years buying them ░░░░░░░░ confidentiality and the evidence ░░░░░░░░ destroyed that s a ░░░░░░░░ KELLY The truth is ░░░░░░░░ ignores the the argument ░░░░░░░░ the realities of what ░░░░░░░░ was like at Fox ░░░░░░░░ when it came to ░░░░░░░░ human resources department and ░░░░░░░░ general counsel was gone ░░░░░░░░ was not a viable ░░░░░░░░ in a lot of ░░░░░░░░ eyes of the women ░░░░░░░░ HUDDY A lot of ░░░░░░░░ feel when you think ░░░░░░░░ human resources department many ░░░░░░░░ us think of them ░░░░░░░░ sort of protecting the ░░░░░░░░ Not protecting the employees ░░░░░░░░ is what they re ░░░░░░░░ to be there for ░░░░░░░░ that is that s ░░░░░░░░ intimidating factor and also ░░░░░░░░ reason why women don ░░░░░░░░ go to the human ░░░░░░░░ department because they don ░░░░░░░░ think they will be ░░░░░░░░ up When they walk ░░░░░░░░ of the department they ░░░░░░░░ have a bull s ░░░░░░░░ on them and they ░░░░░░░░ be labeled troublemaker KELLY ░░░░░░░░ somebody else will fire ░░░░░░░░ Maybe it s not ░░░░░░░░ R Maybe the press ░░░░░░░░ s all sorts of ░░░░░░░░ they can retaliate without ░░░░░░░░ able to prove it ░░░░░░░░ Companies or corporations are ░░░░░░░░ They have lawyers They ░░░░░░░░ human resources departments Everybody ░░░░░░░░ for them And when ░░░░░░░░ have an employee go ░░░░░░░░ you know you know ░░░░░░░░ re probably going to ░░░░░░░░ facing I m not ░░░░░░░░ about myself But you ░░░░░░░░ that you re going ░░░░░░░░ be facing a machine ░░░░░░░░ behemoth coming after you ░░░░░░░░ probably not too concerned ░░░░░░░░ yreputation or your future ░░░░░░░░ That is part of ░░░░░░░░ playbook When people complained ░░░░░░░░ fox retaliated She stood ░░░░░░░░ and said she was ░░░░░░░░ against because she disclosed ░░░░░░░░ pregnancy To this day ░░░░░░░░ works there We represent ░░░░░░░░ radio correspondent The day ░░░░░░░░ she complained she was ░░░░░░░░ And the list goes ░░░░░░░░ KELLY I want to ░░░░░░░░ clear I practiced law ░░░░░░░░ ten years too These ░░░░░░░░ allegations They re unproven ░░░░░░░░ News haven t had ░░░░░░░░ day in court And ░░░░░░░░ gets to have that ░░░░░░░░ invalid claims can be ░░░░░░░░ just to get rid ░░░░░░░░ them so people don ░░░░░░░░ have to deal with ░░░░░░░░ nonsense of litigation The ░░░░░░░░ one of the reasons ░░░░░░░░ lis wiehl settlement has ░░░░░░░░ headlines is because 32 ░░░░░░░░ is not nuisance value ░░░░░░░░ s a huge number ░░░░░░░░ a lot of lawyers ░░░░░░░░ whether it is reasonable ░░░░░░░░ the company to be ░░░░░░░░ it didn t know ░░░░░░░░ O Reilly would have ░░░░░░░░ 32 million bucks And ░░░░░░░░ next question is if ░░░░░░░░ didn t know why ░░░░░░░░ t they know Why ░░░░░░░░ t they find out ░░░░░░░░ re signing him I ░░░░░░░░ going to leave it ░░░░░░░░ that We have more ░░░░░░░░ Juliet after the break ░░░░░░░░ We re back now ░░░░░░░░ former Fox news anchor ░░░░░░░░ Huddy and her attorney ░░░░░░░░ Wigdor Last year Juliet ░░░░░░░░ a lawsuit alleging sexual ░░░░░░░░ by Fox News host ░░░░░░░░ O Reilly I know ░░░░░░░░ you signed a nondisclosure ░░░░░░░░ in connection with this ░░░░░░░░ As a lawyer you ░░░░░░░░ I can t talk ░░░░░░░░ anything KELLY Do you ░░░░░░░░ signing that WIGDOR Just ░░░░░░░░ more about HUDDY I ░░░░░░░░ broaden it out Like ░░░░░░░░ said I think women ░░░░░░░░ women go into the ░░░░░░░░ agreement because they just ░░░░░░░░ t want to face ░░░░░░░░ potentially could be coming ░░░░░░░░ them Again you re ░░░░░░░░ with a corporation filled ░░░░░░░░ people who are going ░░░░░░░░ do everything they possibly ░░░░░░░░ to make sure that ░░░░░░░░ win and you don ░░░░░░░░ And you know if ░░░░░░░░ re just a woman ░░░░░░░░ you know made 100 ░░░░░░░░ a year and you ░░░░░░░░ bills to pay and ░░░░░░░░ got other things going ░░░░░░░░ you know you have ░░░░░░░░ worry about facing you ░░░░░░░░ bad press and all ░░░░░░░░ You have to think ░░░░░░░░ your future And some ░░░░░░░░ just want to make ░░░░░░░░ go away and move ░░░░░░░░ with their lives KELLY ░░░░░░░░ you scared today HUDDY ░░░░░░░░ m terrified I m ░░░░░░░░ I don t know ░░░░░░░░ I m about to ░░░░░░░░ But it s just ░░░░░░░░ s difficult I think ░░░░░░░░ have regrets People have ░░░░░░░░ when they sign nondisclosure ░░░░░░░░ I would imagine that ░░░░░░░░ do I think it ░░░░░░░░ something that you grapple ░░░░░░░░ when you re going ░░░░░░░░ it You think it ░░░░░░░░ the best move to ░░░░░░░░ but it s not ░░░░░░░░ the best move KELLY ░░░░░░░░ you feel very alone ░░░░░░░░ like you are the ░░░░░░░░ one And you don ░░░░░░░░ know that you re ░░░░░░░░ of this underground sorority ░░░░░░░░ Right If settlement agreements ░░░░░░░░ t happen if there ░░░░░░░░ no nondisclosures more women ░░░░░░░░ feel like I can ░░░░░░░░ fight this if they ░░░░░░░░ there are other women ░░░░░░░░ have gone through the ░░░░░░░░ thing But typically you ░░░░░░░░ t know there s ░░░░░░░░ women The lis wiehl ░░░░░░░░ it will be 32 ░░░░░░░░ over four years There ░░░░░░░░ a reason they do ░░░░░░░░ that way That s ░░░░░░░░ to chill her from ░░░░░░░░ out If you dangle ░░░░░░░░ money over four years ░░░░░░░░ have a chance to ░░░░░░░░ after her Picking up ░░░░░░░░ what Juliet said There ░░░░░░░░ a lot of women ░░░░░░░░ are silent sufferers women ░░░░░░░░ have not come forward ░░░░░░░░ of the fox playbook ░░░░░░░░ just fox Look at ░░░░░░░░ Weinstein Legitimate victims of ░░░░░░░░ sexual assault And this ░░░░░░░░ million settlement Fox was ░░░░░░░░ recipient of a release ░░░░░░░░ that settlement They got ░░░░░░░░ in return for it ░░░░░░░░ head lawyer at 21st ░░░░░░░░ fox is talking about ░░░░░░░░ they can hide that ░░░░░░░░ from the federal government ░░░░░░░░ it just shows you ░░░░░░░░ knowledge about what they ░░░░░░░░ what they were trying ░░░░░░░░ deceive T shareholders viewers ░░░░░░░░ everyone else We haven ░░░░░░░░ heard from Gerson on ░░░░░░░░ We did get a ░░░░░░░░ from 21st century fox ░░░░░░░░ owns Fox News channel ░░░░░░░░ say this 21st century ░░░░░░░░ has taken concerted action ░░░░░░░░ transform Fox News including ░░░░░░░░ new leaders expanding training ░░░░░░░░ increasing the channels through ░░░░░░░░ employees can report harassment ░░░░░░░░ discrimination This comes from ░░░░░░░░ top with a personal ░░░░░░░░ for equality on the ░░░░░░░░ I need to respond ░░░░░░░░ that It s preposterous ░░░░░░░░ really is They paid ░░░░░░░░ O Reilly They give ░░░░░░░░ a raise after everything ░░░░░░░░ talked about Pay him ░░░░░░░░ million when he leaves ░░░░░░░░ Ailes 40 million when ░░░░░░░░ leaves That s done ░░░░░░░░ the time to get ░░░░░░░░ of a problematic executive ░░░░░░░░ when they re accused ░░░░░░░░ all kinds of sexual ░░░░░░░░ Even then And then ░░░░░░░░ have the audacity to ░░░░░░░░ to fight 22 legitimate ░░░░░░░░ of harassment You can ░░░░░░░░ into the specifics about ░░░░░░░░ People fight litigation And ░░░░░░░░ s a belief among ░░░░░░░░ that if you settle ░░░░░░░░ claim you ll be ░░░░░░░░ recipient of many other ░░░░░░░░ They called it abhorrent ░░░░░░░░ Look at a race ░░░░░░░░ case 12 people of ░░░░░░░░ that were gross tessingly ░░░░░░░░ about it They fire ░░░░░░░░ woman they fired the ░░░░░░░░ guilty of that After ░░░░░░░░ filed the lawsuit They ░░░░░░░░ not wrong that they ░░░░░░░░ made changes They have ░░░░░░░░ changes Bill shine I ░░░░░░░░ in that e mail ░░░░░░░░ no longer there Abernathy ░░░░░░░░ still running the company ░░░░░░░░ Reilly is gone The ░░░░░░░░ counsel is gone Irina ░░░░░░░░ is still there The ░░░░░░░░ the wiehl settlement was ░░░░░░░░ shocking was because it ░░░░░░░░ made after Ailes was ░░░░░░░░ and while they were ░░░░░░░░ to improve the culture ░░░░░░░░ they knew he had ░░░░░░░░ five other cases They ░░░░░░░░ Starts at the top ░░░░░░░░ starts with the murdochs ░░░░░░░░ re still there You ░░░░░░░░ at the board and ░░░░░░░░ number of women on ░░░░░░░░ board There s just ░░░░░░░░ couple Not many people ░░░░░░░░ color Not many people ░░░░░░░░ experience in diversity Experience ░░░░░░░░ making sure that when ░░░░░░░░ complain about discrimination in ░░░░░░░░ workplace they re not ░░░░░░░░ victimized and retaliated I ░░░░░░░░ like yes human resources ░░░░░░░░ Fox News has a ░░░░░░░░ overseeing that kind of ░░░░░░░░ Even knowing when I ░░░░░░░░ been there I complained ░░░░░░░░ Ailes I wouldn t ░░░░░░░░ gone to that person ░░░░░░░░ would have been terrified ░░░░░░░░ would have been worried ░░░░░░░░ would have gotten back ░░░░░░░░ have to find a ░░░░░░░░ way We need men ░░░░░░░░ powerful positions to stand ░░░░░░░░ for us when we ░░░░░░░░ complain and take us ░░░░░░░░ And we need to ░░░░░░░░ the underground army at ░░░░░░░░ respective places If the ░░░░░░░░ accusers had known how ░░░░░░░░ other women there were ░░░░░░░░ we had known how ░░░░░░░░ women had been suffering ░░░░░░░░ fox News Women think ░░░░░░░░ careers are going to ░░░░░░░░ torpedoed And they could ░░░░░░░░ torpedoed coming at you ░░░░░░░░ you have another job ░░░░░░░░ On that happy note ░░░░░░░░ is another day Great ░░░░░░░░ see you.
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