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Norm Eisen Appears on CNN’s ‘Laura Coates Live’ to Discuss Jan. 6th Report of Jack Smith (clip) (clip) (clip)
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Anderson Cooper 360

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Norman Eisen / Norm Eisen

Name: Norman Eisen / Norm Eisen
Employment: CNN
Position: Legal Analyst
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RUSH TRANSCRIPT A really ░░░░░░░░ point I want to ░░░░░░░░ to Evan Perez and ░░░░░░░░ mizan You re both ░░░░░░░░ through all the details ░░░░░░░░ this Evan what stands ░░░░░░░░ to you Well a ░░░░░░░░ of things You know ░░░░░░░░ learn here for the ░░░░░░░░ time There s a ░░░░░░░░ details of of of ░░░░░░░░ the things that they ░░░░░░░░ at and they looked ░░░░░░░░ whether Donald Trump could ░░░░░░░░ charged with violating the ░░░░░░░░ riot act for instance ░░░░░░░░ would basically put Donald ░░░░░░░░ more firmly connected to ░░░░░░░░ riot and what they ░░░░░░░░ they describe here in ░░░░░░░░ footnote that the the ░░░░░░░░ was aware that courts ░░░░░░░░ struck down and limited ░░░░░░░░ prongs of the anti ░░░░░░░░ act so they decided ░░░░░░░░ wasn t worth the ░░░░░░░░ to try to do ░░░░░░░░ They also looked at ░░░░░░░░ another statute which would ░░░░░░░░ they believe they had ░░░░░░░░ evidence Mr Trump and ░░░░░░░░ coconspirators agreed to use ░░░░░░░░ to defeat the government ░░░░░░░░ of collecting counting and ░░░░░░░░ the results of the ░░░░░░░░ to obstruct the certification ░░░░░░░░ to injure the right ░░░░░░░░ citizens to vote and ░░░░░░░░ their votes counted again ░░░░░░░░ are one of the ░░░░░░░░ that they said is ░░░░░░░░ they decided they didn ░░░░░░░░ need that they stuck ░░░░░░░░ just the four charges ░░░░░░░░ they have right And ░░░░░░░░ what what this report ░░░░░░░░ tells us a little ░░░░░░░░ about is that you ░░░░░░░░ they did look at ░░░░░░░░ things to charge They ░░░░░░░░ by the way at ░░░░░░░░ end of this investigation ░░░░░░░░ that they could not ░░░░░░░░ the coconspirators You know ░░░░░░░░ ve been talking about ░░░░░░░░ these coconspirators that were ░░░░░░░░ in the original indictment ░░░░░░░░ they continue to investigate ░░░░░░░░ people And in the ░░░░░░░░ the office ended without ░░░░░░░░ against any of those ░░░░░░░░ That s interesting because ░░░░░░░░ know you remember those ░░░░░░░░ included Rudy Giuliani There ░░░░░░░░ other people who were ░░░░░░░░ Eastman people who were ░░░░░░░░ with the fake electors ░░░░░░░░ So all of those ░░░░░░░░ appear because this office ░░░░░░░░ t exist anymore are ░░░░░░░░ longer facing that that ░░░░░░░░ jeopardy I should note ░░░░░░░░ the way 250 people ░░░░░░░░ interviewed for this as ░░░░░░░░ of this investigation According ░░░░░░░░ the Justice Department And ░░░░░░░░ know that is you ░░░░░░░░ far more than we ░░░░░░░░ ever known And 55 ░░░░░░░░ were brought to the ░░░░░░░░ jury 55 witnesses were ░░░░░░░░ to the grand jury ░░░░░░░░ that s brand new ░░░░░░░░ We didn t know ░░░░░░░░ the scope of what ░░░░░░░░ investigation had covered I ░░░░░░░░ to stop for a ░░░░░░░░ Also have we have ░░░░░░░░ part of what the ░░░░░░░░ says in this report ░░░░░░░░ this the department s ░░░░░░░░ that the Constitution prohibits ░░░░░░░░ continued indictment and prosecution ░░░░░░░░ a president is categorical ░░░░░░░░ does not turn on ░░░░░░░░ gravity of the crimes ░░░░░░░░ The strength of the ░░░░░░░░ s proof or the ░░░░░░░░ of the prosecution which ░░░░░░░░ office stands fully behind ░░░░░░░░ but for Mr Trump ░░░░░░░░ election and imminent return ░░░░░░░░ the presidency the office ░░░░░░░░ that the admissible evidence ░░░░░░░░ sufficient to obtain and ░░░░░░░░ a conviction at trial ░░░░░░░░ Honig what s your ░░░░░░░░ to that So what ░░░░░░░░ Smith is doing here ░░░░░░░░ making clear why he ░░░░░░░░ this investigation why he ░░░░░░░░ a few weeks ago ░░░░░░░░ dismiss this case He ░░░░░░░░ saying it had nothing ░░░░░░░░ do with any weakness ░░░░░░░░ the proof He says ░░░░░░░░ there in the passage ░░░░░░░░ just read Laura I ░░░░░░░░ confident that had we ░░░░░░░░ to trial we would ░░░░░░░░ gotten a conviction He ░░░░░░░░ no way to know ░░░░░░░░ I mean we never ░░░░░░░░ what a jury is ░░░░░░░░ to do but he ░░░░░░░░ saying I had enough ░░░░░░░░ The reason he s ░░░░░░░░ that I dismiss these ░░░░░░░░ is because of long ░░░░░░░░ internal Justice Department policy ░░░░░░░░ actually goes all the ░░░░░░░░ back to Watergate that ░░░░░░░░ we DoJ do not ░░░░░░░░ we can prosecute the ░░░░░░░░ president constitutionally And so ░░░░░░░░ Smith actually said in ░░░░░░░░ letters to the court ░░░░░░░░ he dismissed the case ░░░░░░░░ said I ve checked ░░░░░░░░ our lawyers at what ░░░░░░░░ call olc the office ░░░░░░░░ legal counsel the in ░░░░░░░░ experts and they confirmed ░░░░░░░░ that policy does apply ░░░░░░░░ us So that explains ░░░░░░░░ statement here The department ░░░░░░░░ view that the Constitution ░░░░░░░░ the continued indictment and ░░░░░░░░ of a president Jack ░░░░░░░░ saying that policy is ░░░░░░░░ only reason we ended ░░░░░░░░ case nor mizan It ░░░░░░░░ has a kind of ░░░░░░░░ deja vu moment when ░░░░░░░░ comes to the state ░░░░░░░░ proceeding last week although ░░░░░░░░ for very different reasons ░░░░░░░░ s your reaction and ░░░░░░░░ are you seeing that ░░░░░░░░ out to you now ░░░░░░░░ we ve had a ░░░░░░░░ to go through the ░░░░░░░░ the shock of the ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump is documented ░░░░░░░░ having done here pressuring ░░░░░░░░ officials the fake electors ░░░░░░░░ abusing the Justice Department ░░░░░░░░ the vice president inciting ░░░░░░░░ violence Second there s ░░░░░░░░ very extensive legal treatment ░░░░░░░░ suggests the strengths of ░░░░░░░░ strength of these claims ░░░░░░░░ this had ever made ░░░░░░░░ to to a jury ░░░░░░░░ you look at the ░░░░░░░░ even though they re ░░░░░░░░ Mike Pence within inches ░░░░░░░░ danger perhaps life threatening ░░░░░░░░ Trump s reaction So ░░░░░░░░ It still jumps out ░░░░░░░░ you And finally the ░░░░░░░░ Todd Blanche soon to ░░░░░░░░ if confirmed the number ░░░░░░░░ official at the Justice ░░░░░░░░ packed with disinformation in ░░░░░░░░ lengthy letter begins Donald ░░░░░░░░ was completely exonerated No ░░░░░░░░ Trump was not exonerated ░░░░░░░░ opposite legal rules stood ░░░░░░░░ the way of a ░░░░░░░░ determination here Geoff Duncan ░░░░░░░░ s a lot of ░░░░░░░░ about state actors being ░░░░░░░░ Talk to me about ░░░░░░░░ you see the fact ░░░░░░░░ this report is now ░░░░░░░░ there You were also ░░░░░░░░ I understand kicked out ░░░░░░░░ your state s GOP ░░░░░░░░ angered by your continued ░░░░░░░░ and opposition to what ░░░░░░░░ believe was wrong What ░░░░░░░░ your reaction tonight Well ░░░░░░░░ the truth gets you ░░░░░░░░ out of the club ░░░░░░░░ m fine Getting kicked ░░░░░░░░ of the club and ░░░░░░░░ ve been telling the ░░░░░░░░ since day one This ░░░░░░░░ ground game was really ░░░░░░░░ played at the state ░░░░░░░░ for Donald Trump and ░░░░░░░░ team as they were ░░░░░░░░ to overturn the 2020 ░░░░░░░░ state by state by ░░░░░░░░ Even granular phone calls ░░░░░░░░ the president to state ░░░░░░░░ folks that would never ░░░░░░░░ in the history of ░░░░░░░░ be able to talk ░░░░░░░░ to a president about ░░░░░░░░ as important as an ░░░░░░░░ But that s the ░░░░░░░░ the game was played ░░░░░░░░ think history when it ░░░░░░░░ back over this this ░░░░░░░░ entire
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