RUSH TRANSCRIPT Experienced Arthel ░░░░░░░░ aren t many unanswered ░░░░░░░░ about the raging California ░░░░░░░░ One of the biggest ░░░░░░░░ exactly did they start ░░░░░░░░ of the most skilled ░░░░░░░░ from the atf are ░░░░░░░░ tasked with probing the ░░░░░░░░ of the devastating infernos ░░░░░░░░ us and now now ░░░░░░░░ at special agent in ░░░░░░░░ faculty associate at Arizona ░░░░░░░░ university school of criminology ░░░░░░░░ criminal justice So where ░░░░░░░░ you start such an ░░░░░░░░ what kind of equipment ░░░░░░░░ atf use when coming ░░░░░░░░ the rubble Also part ░░░░░░░░ the potential hi dangers ░░░░░░░░ atf agents They deployed ░░░░░░░░ national response team which ░░░░░░░░ a cooperation of a ░░░░░░░░ of disciplines and sciences ░░░░░░░░ s incredibly effective investigative ░░░░░░░░ Their primary objective is ░░░░░░░░ find cause and origin ░░░░░░░░ and origin could be ░░░░░░░░ like accidental if you ░░░░░░░░ energy transmission line that ░░░░░░░░ starting the fire pit ░░░░░░░░ the found evidence of ░░░░░░░░ man main substance which ░░░░░░░░ like a road flare ░░░░░░░░ accelerants They will be ░░░░░░░░ a laboratory analysis on ░░░░░░░░ to expedite their findings ░░░░░░░░ will come to a ░░░░░░░░ of the origin for ░░░░░░░░ of it Arthel is ░░░░░░░░ possible to discover different ░░░░░░░░ sources for multiple fires ░░░░░░░░ the area It is ░░░░░░░░ plausible that in a ░░░░░░░░ like this and it ░░░░░░░░ been historically the case ░░░░░░░░ you had something that ░░░░░░░░ mechanically or accidentally Then ░░░░░░░░ started an arson fire ░░░░░░░░ addition because the Santa ░░░░░░░░ winds potential devastation We ░░░░░░░░ not know what their ░░░░░░░░ and intent is other ░░░░░░░░ to start a fire ░░░░░░░░ the federal criminal penalties ░░░░░░░░ starting an arson fire ░░░░░░░░ the results in death ░░░░░░░░ significant up to life ░░░░░░░░ prison or even the ░░░░░░░░ penalty So one of ░░░░░░░░ things they use simple ░░░░░░░░ up to very advanced ░░░░░░░░ They have canines that ░░░░░░░░ accelerants Part of their ░░░░░░░░ up into significant Recently ░░░░░░░░ laboratory analysis they can ░░░░░░░░ on site The people ░░░░░░░░ the response teams are ░░░░░░░░ the most skilled in ░░░░░░░░ field They are the ░░░░░░░░ arson investigators working with ░░░░░░░░ Angeles and the resources ░░░░░░░░ There will be significant ░░░░░░░░ will come up with ░░░░░░░░ very strong information as ░░░░░░░░ what was the cause ░░░░░░░░ the origin of a ░░░░░░░░ and some of the ░░░░░░░░ fires of origin Arthel ░░░░░░░░ wants to know I ░░░░░░░░ just wondering again there ░░░░░░░░ so much in front ░░░░░░░░ them What is the ░░░░░░░░ in terms of where ░░░░░░░░ start Is it a ░░░░░░░░ what do they see ░░░░░░░░ may draw them and ░░░░░░░░ this looks like a ░░░░░░░░ place to start How ░░░░░░░░ they know The first ░░░░░░░░ is experience it seemingly ░░░░░░░░ buried the fire scenes ░░░░░░░░ to experience a fire ░░░░░░░░ One thing that is ░░░░░░░░ here is fires that ░░░░░░░░ started under heavy wind ░░░░░░░░ such as the Santa ░░░░░░░░ winds the fire went ░░░░░░░░ from the point of ░░░░░░░░ Sometimes you have evidence ░░░░░░░░ sources at the start ░░░░░░░░ can also paint a ░░░░░░░░ point as to where ░░░░░░░░ fire started Because the ░░░░░░░░ that did not happen ░░░░░░░░ it or where it ░░░░░░░░ have been directed away ░░░░░░░░ Fire it like this ░░░░░░░░ that s being energized ░░░░░░░░ the wind is literally ░░░░░░░░ firebreathing monster It s ░░░░░░░░ seeking its fuel soy ░░░░░░░░ which is oxygen It ░░░░░░░░ rapidly It changes with ░░░░░░░░ oak conditions All that ░░░░░░░░ reflective and what is ░░░░░░░░ behind These investigators the ░░░░░░░░ the scientists are going ░░░░░░░░ be looking for these ░░░░░░░░ that give them a ░░░░░░░░ to start They will ░░░░░░░░ down to very detailed ░░░░░░░░ at what they believe ░░░░░░░░ the points of origin ░░░░░░░░ isn tit is unmanageable ░░░░░░░░ s surprising they can ░░░░░░░░ that level of specific ░░░░░░░░ Arthel you talk about ░░░░░░░░ is left behind the ░░░░░░░░ of an arsonist the ░░░░░░░░ certain indicators What about ░░░░░░░░ or accidental start how ░░░░░░░░ they know Those can ░░░░░░░░ revealed as well well ░░░░░░░░ if you found a ░░░░░░░░ flare partially consumed in ░░░░░░░░ fire took off from ░░░░░░░░ it s in a ░░░░░░░░ unusual place They are ░░░░░░░░ for everything you would ░░░░░░░░ kind of investigation like ░░░░░░░░ investigation which would have ░░░░░░░░ to what they found ░░░░░░░░ in that place In ░░░░░░░░ to a lot of ░░░░░░░░ with people in the ░░░░░░░░ Any information of items ░░░░░░░░ are found but where ░░░░░░░░ came fr where the ░░░░░░░░ life was until they ░░░░░░░░ up at this point ░░░░░░░░ origin of the fire ░░░░░░░░ is meticulous work It ░░░░░░░░ labor intensive work They ░░░░░░░░ going there intent of ░░░░░░░░ being able to determine ░░░░░░░░ and origin for the ░░░░░░░░ If they actually do ░░░░░░░░ something that looks like ░░░░░░░░ is man made they ░░░░░░░░ to get to the ░░░░░░░░ of motive of an ░░░░░░░░ Was it an accident ░░░░░░░░ rick someone got scared ░░░░░░░░ not want to reveal ░░░░░░░░ happened which was a ░░░░░░░░ California wildfire someone was ░░░░░░░░ a lawfully starting a ░░░░░░░░ and ended up killing ░░░░░░░░ hundreds of acres Wasn ░░░░░░░░ intentional on their part ░░░░░░░░ the origin was man ░░░░░░░░ in that case as ░░░░░░░░ example Arthel understood but ░░░░░░░░ you so much for ░░░░░░░░ us an idea of ░░░░░░░░ they are facing and ░░░░░░░░ they go about tackling ░░░░░░░░ an enormous job ahead ░░░░░░░░ are very confident based ░░░░░░░░ your experience that they ░░░░░░░░ get the job done ░░░░░░░░ former atf special agent ░░░░░░░░ charge, thank