Abby Phillip: Are We Still in the Post 9/11 Era Where We Have to Surveil Muslim Communities?

RUSH TRANSCRIPT Um you ░░░░░░░░ in the course of ░░░░░░░░ post 9 11 era ░░░░░░░░ they took all forms ░░░░░░░░ the key was we ░░░░░░░░ human sources on the ░░░░░░░░ We had undercovers that ░░░░░░░░ could put into a ░░░░░░░░ where after we found ░░░░░░░░ about a plot to ░░░░░░░░ out was there a ░░░░░░░░ we had monitoring social ░░░░░░░░ by not just English ░░░░░░░░ but language speakers and ░░░░░░░░ had it on right ░░░░░░░░ extremists left wing extremists ░░░░░░░░ Islamic extremists You know ░░░░░░░░ covered the board on ░░░░░░░░ idea that to address ░░░░░░░░ kind of threat you ░░░░░░░░ talking about the needle ░░░░░░░░ the haystack you have ░░░░░░░░ be all over the ░░░░░░░░ But I mean I ░░░░░░░░ this is the thing ░░░░░░░░ I m still struggling ░░░░░░░░ this particular situation right ░░░░░░░░ don t you mentioned ░░░░░░░░ into the predominantly Muslim ░░░░░░░░ that he worked in ░░░░░░░░ do we even know ░░░░░░░░ he was even connected ░░░░░░░░ that community I mean ░░░░░░░░ we still in the ░░░░░░░░ post nine over 11 ░░░░░░░░ where we re going ░░░░░░░░ Muslim communities and assuming ░░░░░░░░ people there need to ░░░░░░░░ surveilled for terrorism when ░░░░░░░░ terrorism is clearly happening ░░░░░░░░ all kinds of different ░░░░░░░░ including people who have ░░░░░░░░ no ties to Muslim ░░░░░░░░ people get upset right ░░░░░░░░ when we mention the ░░░░░░░░ surveillance It s not ░░░░░░░░ much surveillance it s ░░░░░░░░ pc I m just ░░░░░░░░ to be practical No ░░░░░░░░ I mean I always ░░░░░░░░ I have a friend ░░░░░░░░ every location and even ░░░░░░░░ it s an enemy ░░░░░░░░ them a friend Because ░░░░░░░░ the end of the ░░░░░░░░ you re going to ░░░░░░░░ that help And we ░░░░░░░░ losing the value just ░░░░░░░░ he said of human ░░░░░░░░ It s one of ░░░░░░░░ key things It s ░░░░░░░░ of the core investigative ░░░░░░░░ and we ve gone ░░░░░░░░ from it We re ░░░░░░░░ talking about it Yeah ░░░░░░░░ think with the younger ░░░░░░░░ now I don t ░░░░░░░░ people are as adept ░░░░░░░░ skilled at wanting to ░░░░░░░░ on somebody s door ░░░░░░░░ themselves ask for their ░░░░░░░░ Right I think there ░░░░░░░░ a total lack of ░░░░░░░░ don t you think ░░░░░░░░ you you got to ░░░░░░░░ that trust over time ░░░░░░░░ you re not you ░░░░░░░░ not going to automatically ░░░░░░░░ it You got to ░░░░░░░░ it over time Yeah ░░░░░░░░ think we ve lost ░░░░░░░░ of that And it ░░░░░░░░ going to take a ░░░░░░░░ time now to get ░░░░░░░░ back I think the ░░░░░░░░ hagar was saying the ░░░░░░░░ warning lights have been ░░░░░░░░ for quite a while ░░░░░░░░ and I think there ░░░░░░░░ a little bit of ░░░░░░░░ degree of complacency that ░░░░░░░░ set in post 9 ░░░░░░░░ but also you know ░░░░░░░░ cooperation is at a ░░░░░░░░ I think as we ░░░░░░░░ a world in which ░░░░░░░░ power competition becomes more ░░░░░░░░ the United States and ░░░░░░░░ are at loggerheads Intelligence ░░░░░░░░ isn t what it ░░░░░░░░ to be You will ░░░░░░░░ more attacks It becomes ░░░░░░░░ for groups like ISIS ░░░░░░░░ sort of use that ░░░░░░░░ of tension between countries ░░░░░░░░ exploit intelligence sharing It ░░░░░░░░ 100 correct when Where ░░░░░░░░ before October 7th I ░░░░░░░░ the government my former ░░░░░░░░ had we had moved ░░░░░░░░ around And that s ░░░░░░░░ common in the U ░░░░░░░░ Government When you have ░░░░░░░░ threat whether it s ░░░░░░░░ at that time it ░░░░░░░░ really Russia and Ukraine ░░░░░░░░ China and Iran they ░░░░░░░░ folks around and then ░░░░░░░░ take those those people ░░░░░░░░ had been doing for ░░░░░░░░ keeping their eye on ░░░░░░░░ ball and Hamas and ░░░░░░░░ them to another to ░░░░░░░░ portfolio And that s ░░░░░░░░ common in the U ░░░░░░░░ government But it creates ░░░░░░░░ vulnerabilities And it s ░░░░░░░░ just people there moving ░░░░░░░░ mean if you consider ░░░░░░░░ you know kind of ░░░░░░░░ Michael Morell Graham Allison ░░░░░░░░ lights are blinking red ░░░░░░░░ that came out a ░░░░░░░░ months ago as kind ░░░░░░░░ the the warning bell ░░░░░░░░ were also talking about ░░░░░░░░ re taking the pros ░░░░░░░░ dover their best analysts ░░░░░░░░ putting them on these ░░░░░░░░ hard problems Russia China ░░░░░░░░ um Iran and other ░░░░░░░░ And you know they ░░░░░░░░ putting people in a ░░░░░░░░ who are green who ░░░░░░░░ not have the experience ░░░░░░░░ is down You look ░░░░░░░░ you know how they ░░░░░░░░ handle a group like ░░░░░░░░ and they say well ░░░░░░░░ s leave that to ░░░░░░░░ regional squad rather than ░░░░░░░░ Hezbollah squad You start ░░░░░░░░ lose this And you ░░░░░░░░ the tripwires are key ░░░░░░░░