National Security Expert on New Orleans Suspect: ‘There’s No Profile for This’

MENENDEZ And we re ░░░░░░░░ more about this morning ░░░░░░░░ about the suspect Shamsud ░░░░░░░░ Jabbar He s an ░░░░░░░░ citizen from Texas He ░░░░░░░░ on active duty in ░░░░░░░░ Army as an administrative ░░░░░░░░ for nearly a decade ░░░░░░░░ a deployment to Afghanistan ░░░░░░░░ he was honorably discharged ░░░░░░░░ 2020 What we do ░░░░░░░░ know yet is how ░░░░░░░░ might have become radicalized ░░░░░░░░ commit mass violence and ░░░░░░░░ he had any help ░░░░░░░░ the way Back with ░░░░░░░░ Frank Figliuzzi and joining ░░░░░░░░ Javed Ali who worked ░░░░░░░░ more than 20 years ░░░░░░░░ the Pentagon the FBI ░░░░░░░░ the Department of Homeland ░░░░░░░░ he now teaches counterterrorism ░░░░░░░░ the University of Michigan ░░░░░░░░ is good to see ░░░░░░░░ both Javed I want ░░░░░░░░ begin with you I ░░░░░░░░ asked Frank Figliuzzi earlier ░░░░░░░░ about this suspect most ░░░░░░░░ him He pointed both ░░░░░░░░ the suspect s age ░░░░░░░░ the fact that he ░░░░░░░░ disappeared for a period ░░░░░░░░ time did not have ░░░░░░░░ significant digital footprint With ░░░░░░░░ little that we know ░░░░░░░░ stands out to you ░░░░░░░░ Well thanks for having ░░░░░░░░ this evening And based ░░░░░░░░ what s come out ░░░░░░░░ this individual he seems ░░░░░░░░ fit the very randomized ░░░░░░░░ of other individuals we ░░░░░░░░ seen for more than ░░░░░░░░ years in the aftermath ░░░░░░░░ 9 11 of people ░░░░░░░░ fall down these sort ░░░░░░░░ rabbit holes of radicalization ░░░░░░░░ Americans and there s ░░░░░░░░ profile for this I ░░░░░░░░ looked at this for ░░░░░░░░ long time in my ░░░░░░░░ government positions and we ░░░░░░░░ searching to see if ░░░░░░░░ was some kind of ░░░░░░░░ of common factors or ░░░░░░░░ of behavior or things ░░░░░░░░ would help law enforcement ░░░░░░░░ intelligence to sort of ░░░░░░░░ more upstream of this ░░░░░░░░ of activity to stop ░░░░░░░░ And despite all of ░░░░░░░░ analysis we couldn t ░░░░░░░░ at the end of ░░░░░░░░ day come up with ░░░░░░░░ grand insights on this ░░░░░░░░ we re going to ░░░░░░░░ out that with this ░░░░░░░░ it probably took a ░░░░░░░░ of factors that drove ░░░░░░░░ over a several year ░░░░░░░░ to committing this type ░░░░░░░░ attack MENENDEZ To those ░░░░░░░░ are watching and saying ░░░░░░░░ could someone who served ░░░░░░░░ the U S Military ░░░░░░░░ radicalized how could they ░░░░░░░░ out an attack like ░░░░░░░░ what would you say ░░░░░░░░ them Ali Unfortunately we ░░░░░░░░ already seen another example ░░░░░░░░ this If your viewers ░░░░░░░░ in 2008 Major Nidal ░░░░░░░░ in Fort Hood Texas ░░░░░░░░ several of his fellow ░░░░░░░░ soldiers because he also ░░░░░░░░ been had fallen under ░░░░░░░░ spell of jihadist radicalization ░░░░░░░░ quite a long period ░░░░░░░░ time and rather than ░░░░░░░░ to commit it in ░░░░░░░░ outside an army base ░░░░░░░░ did it to his ░░░░░░░░ soldiers in a mess ░░░░░░░░ actually He was a ░░░░░░░░ and a medical doctor ░░░░░░░░ very different kind of ░░░░░░░░ from the person who ░░░░░░░░ the attack last night ░░░░░░░░ we ve seen this ░░░░░░░░ where other folks with ░░░░░░░░ background have fallen into ░░░░░░░░ And the same thing ░░░░░░░░ for individuals in the ░░░░░░░░ sort of end of ░░░░░░░░ ideological spectrum of white ░░░░░░░░ and neo Nazis There ░░░░░░░░ lots of people also ░░░░░░░░ foreign military and law ░░░░░░░░ background So this is ░░░░░░░░ really troubling aspect of ░░░░░░░░ and extremism in the ░░░░░░░░ States.”