Geraldo on America Talking About Health Care: ‘Luigi Has Succeeded’

JENNINGS Do you think ░░░░░░░░ should release this manifesto ░░░░░░░░ Yeah I don t ░░░░░░░░ JENNINGS Because some of ░░░░░░░░ other shootings we ve ░░░░░░░░ in this country and ░░░░░░░░ places we still don ░░░░░░░░ know anything about the ░░░░░░░░ who shot at Trump ░░░░░░░░ still don t know ░░░░░░░░ about the person who ░░░░░░░░ that atrocity at the ░░░░░░░░ school in Nashville There ░░░░░░░░ a lot of shootings ░░░░░░░░ The Las Vegas mass ░░░░░░░░ we know nothing about ░░░░░░░░ There s a lot ░░░░░░░░ things we are hidden ░░░░░░░░ us And then this ░░░░░░░░ Geraldo shoots and we ░░░░░░░░ more in five minutes ░░░░░░░░ him than we know ░░░░░░░░ all these other people ░░░░░░░░ I wonder why that ░░░░░░░░ GERALDO But the manifesto ░░░░░░░░ was released before we ░░░░░░░░ the perpetrator So you ░░░░░░░░ the manifesto That s ░░░░░░░░ they got the Unabomber ░░░░░░░░ brother reads the manifesto ░░░░░░░░ the brother s style ░░░░░░░░ you know Harvard AVLON ░░░░░░░░ there s a protocol ░░░░░░░░ And to his point ░░░░░░░░ John hold on one ░░░░░░░░ Let me jump in ░░░░░░░░ I m really glad ░░░░░░░░ brought that up because ░░░░░░░░ Kaczynski has been quoted ░░░░░░░░ reached out to him ░░░░░░░░ say How do you ░░░░░░░░ about this idea that ░░░░░░░░ s alluding to your ░░░░░░░░ your late brother s ░░░░░░░░ And he basically said ░░░░░░░░ gives me a great ░░░░░░░░ of personal pain to ░░░░░░░░ my brother s actions ░░░░░░░░ in any way contributed ░░░░░░░░ influencing a man like ░░░░░░░░ to kill an innocent ░░░░░░░░ being I bring this ░░░░░░░░ because I can t ░░░░░░░░ of anything with kind ░░░░░░░░ a longer legacy entail ░░░░░░░░ the dark corners of ░░░░░░░░ internet than the Unabomber ░░░░░░░░ which many shooters across ░░░░░░░░ political ideologies have cited ░░░░░░░░ are in that world ░░░░░░░░ still quote from it ░░░░░░░░ still read it AVLON ░░░░░░░░ that s no I ░░░░░░░░ there are people who ░░░░░░░░ dark inspiration from Columbine ░░░░░░░░ generally there s a ░░░░░░░░ around mass shootings right ░░░░░░░░ don t often we ░░░░░░░░ call them the shooter ░░░░░░░░ we don t publish ░░░░░░░░ manifesto for reasons of ░░░░░░░░ Now if manifestos are ░░░░░░░░ particularly in some mass ░░░░░░░░ where there s something ░░░░░░░░ s already out there ░░░░░░░░ you know yeah you ░░░░░░░░ you can read it ░░░░░░░░ you don t elevate ░░░░░░░░ You don t you ░░░░░░░░ t CORNISH But Scott ░░░░░░░░ made a point where ░░░░░░░░ said how come there ░░░░░░░░ ones we don t ░░░░░░░░ And you said it ░░░░░░░░ this like kind of ░░░░░░░░ mark right JENNINGS I ░░░░░░░░ AVLON Usually whether it ░░░░░░░░ public or not CHAMPION ░░░░░░░░ there are things about ░░░░░░░░ story that feel very ░░░░░░░░ and so people are ░░░░░░░░ to it I m ░░░░░░░░ saying that it s ░░░░░░░░ media s fault that ░░░░░░░░ so easy But everyone ░░░░░░░░ talking about By the ░░░░░░░░ who was this guy ░░░░░░░░ he attractive He pulled ░░░░░░░░ his mask Everyone there ░░░░░░░░ all these little breadcrumbs ░░░░░░░░ it makes it feel ░░░░░░░░ we re elevating this ░░░░░░░░ but we re not ░░░░░░░░ isn t a typical ░░░░░░░░ I don t want ░░░░░░░░ say a typical shooting ░░░░░░░░ don t want to ░░░░░░░░ anything like that but ░░░░░░░░ story for whatever reasons ░░░░░░░░ home for a lot ░░░░░░░░ people for better or ░░░░░░░░ worse We re not ░░░░░░░░ that this guy is ░░░░░░░░ for what he did ░░░░░░░░ it just did My ░░░░░░░░ friend tells a story ░░░░░░░░ when her father got ░░░░░░░░ at the top of ░░░░░░░░ She had to literally ░░░░░░░░ tooth and nail day ░░░░░░░░ night for weeks so ░░░░░░░░ they would not deny ░░░░░░░░ claim So she s ░░░░░░░░ in it People are ░░░░░░░░ because this is something ░░░░░░░░ is happening not excusing ░░░░░░░░ AVLON It has nothing ░░░░░░░░ do with the assassination ░░░░░░░░ It has nothing to ░░░░░░░░ with the assassination We ░░░░░░░░ not giving him substance ░░░░░░░░ we are talking about ░░░░░░░░ that people are interested ░░░░░░░░ And if you can ░░░░░░░░ deny you can t ░░░░░░░░ that health care is ░░░░░░░░ issue in this country ░░░░░░░░ I m not denying ░░░░░░░░ at all I m ░░░░░░░░ saying that we re ░░░░░░░░ right up to the ░░░░░░░░ GESIOTTO Yeah I think ░░░░░░░░ s very difficult for ░░░░░░░░ to start talking so ░░░░░░░░ about health care now ░░░░░░░░ two weeks ago nobody ░░░░░░░░ doing that or most ░░░░░░░░ in the media weren ░░░░░░░░ doing that And so ░░░░░░░░ feels a little bit ░░░░░░░░ GERALDO Because Luigi has ░░░░░░░░ GESIOTTO Exactly AVLON Stop ░░░░░░░░ him Luigi The shooter ░░░░░░░░ You know I mean ░░░░░░░░ apologize due respect but ░░░░░░░░ mean like look we ░░░░░░░░ be talking GERALDO I ░░░░░░░░ like saying Luigi AVLON ░░░░░░░░ who doesn t in ░░░░░░░░ But people are you ░░░░░░░░ people are really frustrated ░░░░░░░░ the cost of insurance ░░░░░░░░ how it adds to ░░░░░░░░ affordability crisis in their ░░░░░░░░ lives That s something ░░░░░░░░ should be talking about ░░░░░░░░ But we shouldn t ░░░░░░░░ until someone gets murdered ░░░░░░░░ be talking about it ░░░░░░░░ s the problem I ░░░░░░░░ with it AVLON And ░░░░░░░░ certainly shouldn t talk ░░░░░░░░ him as a vehicle ░░░░░░░░ a larger civic conversation ░░░░░░░░ s a murderer GERALDO ░░░░░░░░ also the fact that ░░░░░░░░ had this background this ░░░░░░░░ school valedictorian University of ░░░░░░░░ the kid had everything ░░░░░░░░ life The radio station ░░░░░░░░ his family owned and ░░░░░░░░ the other businesses they ░░░░░░░░ So if that kid ░░░░░░░░ aberrant who can you ░░░░░░░░ CORNISH That s a ░░░░░░░░ is a very good ░░░░░░░░