I ve known Pete ░░░░░░░░ a long time I ░░░░░░░░ with him in Afghanistan ░░░░░░░░ the people over there ░░░░░░░░ nothing but great things ░░░░░░░░ him the allegations against ░░░░░░░░ are all anonymous anonymous ░░░░░░░░ I am not going ░░░░░░░░ make any decision based ░░░░░░░░ an anonymous source if ░░░░░░░░ re not willing to ░░░░░░░░ your hand under oath ░░░░░░░░ make the accusation it ░░░░░░░░ t count so that ░░░░░░░░ Senator Lindsey Graham list ░░░░░░░░ off some of Trump ░░░░░░░░ cabinet picks but I ░░░░░░░░ also seen quite a ░░░░░░░░ reports saying that he ░░░░░░░░ t fully committed to ░░░░░░░░ Pete Heth yet for ░░░░░░░░ secretary he has mentioned ░░░░░░░░ support for cash Patel ░░░░░░░░ Pam Bondi of course ░░░░░░░░ is the deal Behind ░░░░░░░░ people who are pushing ░░░░░░░░ against Pete Heth so ░░░░░░░░ well let s ask ░░░░░░░░ friend Dory Murdoch on ░░░░░░░░ Thursday great to have ░░░░░░░░ back Dy nationally syndicated ░░░░░░░░ and Fox News contrib ░░░░░░░░ thanks for being here ░░░░░░░░ oh my pleasure and ░░░░░░░░ to be with you ░░░░░░░░ what do you make ░░░░░░░░ all of these discussions ░░░░░░░░ Pete Heath it s ░░░░░░░░ kind of I kind ░░░░░░░░ understood the Matt Gates ░░░░░░░░ division over how people ░░░░░░░░ about him but I ░░░░░░░░ t really understand what ░░░░░░░░ are so scared of ░░░░░░░░ Pete hex for defense ░░░░░░░░ well you know I ░░░░░░░░ always said the biggest ░░░░░░░░ on uh among so ░░░░░░░░ GOP leaders is just ░░░░░░░░ they re just scared ░░░░░░░░ they re not scared ░░░░░░░░ anything in particular just ░░░░░░░░ wake up in the ░░░░░░░░ and First Shadow they ░░░░░░░░ they jump in the ░░░░░░░░ direction and I think ░░░░░░░░ guys not all of ░░░░░░░░ but some of them ░░░░░░░░ you only need to ░░░░░░░░ um what I guess ░░░░░░░░ can lose three Republicans ░░░░░░░░ that you re in ░░░░░░░░ and and if all ░░░░░░░░ Democrats Stay Together these ░░░░░░░░ are not going to ░░░░░░░░ approved but um I ░░░░░░░░ they just scared that ░░░░░░░░ something about uh Pete ░░░░░░░░ and others will cause ░░░░░░░░ they wake up they ░░░░░░░░ scared of you know ░░░░░░░░ this tax cut too ░░░░░░░░ and uh you know ░░░░░░░░ we want to be ░░░░░░░░ tough on the uh ░░░░░░░░ aliens whatever it might ░░░░░░░░ and they need to ░░░░░░░░ understand Trump one comfortably ░░░░░░░░ has a solid mandate ░░░░░░░░ gop1 the White House ░░░░░░░░ Senate and the house ░░░░░░░░ have a mandate to ░░░░░░░░ they should stop being ░░░░░░░░ and put in that ░░░░░░░░ are going to go ░░░░░░░░ and uh you know ░░░░░░░░ people think well he ░░░░░░░░ turn Pentagon upside down ░░░░░░░░ Patel might turn the ░░░░░░░░ upside down uh you ░░░░░░░░ Pam Bon might turn ░░░░░░░░ Department of Justice upside ░░░░░░░░ guess what they need ░░░░░░░░ be turned upside down ░░░░░░░░ lot of these bureaucracies ░░░░░░░░ at best uh well ░░░░░░░░ but bumbling and inefficient ░░░░░░░░ worst you have a ░░░░░░░░ of political people in ░░░░░░░░ who feel that even ░░░░░░░░ their job is to ░░░░░░░░ the American taxpayers and ░░░░░░░░ the lead of whoever ░░░░░░░░ president is and Implement ░░░░░░░░ President s policies their ░░░░░░░░ is no I m ░░░░░░░░ to go to the ░░░░░░░░ to theice day and ░░░░░░░░ what I want and ░░░░░░░░ my agenda which T ░░░░░░░░ to be a big ░░░░░░░░ left of center agenda ░░░░░░░░ if you have a ░░░░░░░░ government left Center president ░░░░░░░░ wants that that s ░░░░░░░░ thing but if you ░░░░░░░░ a conservative limited government ░░░░░░░░ uh pro free enterprise ░░░░░░░░ that s what he ░░░░░░░░ pushing your job is ░░░░░░░░ to uh Row in ░░░░░░░░ same direction or if ░░░░░░░░ don t like it ░░░░░░░░ and go do something ░░░░░░░░ with your life you ░░░░░░░░ go become a law ░░░░░░░░ you know go teach ░░░░░░░░ go practice tax law ░░░░░░░░ law firm or something ░░░░░░░░ this uh but folks ░░░░░░░░ are resisting on Capitol ░░░░░░░░ the Senators uh you ░░░░░░░░ they get with the ░░░░░░░░ and I think so ░░░░░░░░ of the stuff that ░░░░░░░░ been raised about Pete ░░░░░░░░ either it s you ░░░░░░░░ he said she said ░░░░░░░░ sexual misconduct allegations of ░░░░░░░░ added up to any ░░░░░░░░ uh charges or prosecution ░░░░░░░░ indictments what have you ░░░░░░░░ for the story that ░░░░░░░░ out yesterday in the ░░░░░░░░ uh NBC News put ░░░░░░░░ this story uh saying ░░░░░░░░ people at Fox News ░░░░░░░░ 10 people former current ░░░░░░░░ Fox News uh Personnel ░░░░░░░░ saying that Pete was ░░░░░░░░ you know drunk on ░░░░░░░░ set and he barely ░░░░░░░░ through his performances and ░░░░░░░░ smell like alcohol and ░░░░░░░░ and on every single ░░░░░░░░ of those accusations all ░░░░░░░░ of them Anonymous no ░░░░░░░░ attached who knows if ░░░░░░░░ people exist uh they ░░░░░░░░ be totally invented by ░░░░░░░░ authors who wrote the ░░░░░░░░ or they might think ░░░░░░░░ my name is not ░░░░░░░░ so let me exaggerate ░░░░░░░░ create something from scratch ░░░░░░░░ take some small thing ░░░░░░░░ blow out of proportion ░░░░░░░░ so I like the ░░░░░░░░ Graham standard if there ░░░░░░░░ not a name attached ░░░░░░░░ an accusation it doesn ░░░░░░░░ count I really like ░░░░░░░░ that would be that ░░░░░░░░ be new standard because ░░░░░░░░ left is pushing all ░░░░░░░░ you know what happened ░░░░░░░░ Kavanaugh it happened with ░░░░░░░░ happened with hegf that ░░░░░░░░ happened to so many ░░░░░░░░ they just have these ░░░░░░░░ about Anonymous sources you ░░░░░░░░ Anonymous sources saying oh ░░░░░░░░ J Trump said he ░░░░░░░░ t want to go ░░░░░░░░ that World War I ░░░░░░░░ in Paris when he ░░░░░░░░ uh outside Paris he ░░░░░░░░ President because uh those ░░░░░░░░ were suckers and losers ░░░░░░░░ are buried there and ░░░░░░░░ didn t want to ░░░░░░░░ his hair wet in ░░░░░░░░ rain uh all those ░░░░░░░░ Anonymous sources four Anonymous ░░░░░░░░ came out and said ░░░░░░░░ I was able to ░░░░░░░░ together in several pieces ░░░░░░░░ that horrible Story by ░░░░░░░░ Goldberg of the Atlantic ░░░░░░░░ I believe it was ░░░░░░░░ people who said on ░░░░░░░░ record they were in ░░░░░░░░ that wasn t true ░░░░░░░░ was a pack of ░░░░░░░░ so I think we ░░░░░░░░ stop listening to Anonymous ░░░░░░░░ sources and listen to ░░░░░░░░ sources where people stick ░░░░░░░░ heads up put their ░░░░░░░░ out and have to ░░░░░░░░ you know stand by ░░░░░░░░ word and uh pay ░░░░░░░░ consequences if they don ░░░░░░░░ yeah Amen to that ░░░░░░░░ moch speaking with us ░░░░░░░░ now I looked it ░░░░░░░░ Lloyd Austin the current ░░░░░░░░ secretary for Joe Biden ░░░░░░░░ was approved he only ░░░░░░░░ two people who voted ░░░░░░░░ him one of them ░░░░░░░░ our Missouri Senator Josh ░░░░░░░░ and the other one ░░░░░░░░ Mike Lee all of ░░░░░░░░ other Republicans right now ░░░░░░░░ are in the mix ░░░░░░░░ approve the people who ░░░░░░░░ Trump says he wants ░░░░░░░░ his cabinet in order ░░░░░░░░ affect the the changes ░░░░░░░░ the American people agreed ░░░░░░░░ him and sent him ░░░░░░░░ the Oval Office once ░░░░░░░░ what do you make ░░░░░░░░ any of this posturing ░░░░░░░░ the Senators right now ░░░░░░░░ are it s almost ░░░░░░░░ just almost feels a ░░░░░░░░ too much I want ░░░░░░░░ moment in the in ░░░░░░░░ spotlight because I m ░░░░░░░░ one who gets to ░░░░░░░░ yes and I m ░░░░░░░░ to drag this out ░░░░░░░░ little bit it s ░░░░░░░░ annoying to me what ░░░░░░░░ annoying if they want ░░░░░░░░ moments in the spotlight ░░░░░░░░ should stand up especially ░░░░░░░░ the middle of right ░░░░░░░░ I mean they uh ░░░░░░░░ directed against Pete Heth ░░░░░░░░ know if you want ░░░░░░░░ look courageous you know ░░░░░░░░ stand up with him ░░░░░░░░ hold a press conference ░░░░░░░░ go into the Senate ░░░░░░░░ and say you know ░░░░░░░░ I Senator Jones Smith ░░░░░░░░ Jones stand with Pete ░░░░░░░░ and stand up next ░░░░░░░░ him and say you ░░░░░░░░ think he make he ░░░░░░░░ make a great defense ░░░░░░░░ uh will go about ░░░░░░░░ the damage that Lloyd ░░░░░░░░ has done as uh ░░░░░░░░ of Defense you know ░░░░░░░░ say well does does ░░░░░░░░ have the ability to ░░░░░░░░ the this big bureaucracy ░░░░░░░░ look at a guy ░░░░░░░░ Lloyd Austin lots of ░░░░░░░░ he s got as ░░░░░░░░ general he s been ░░░░░░░░ for decades and yet ░░░░░░░░ is the same Administration ░░░░░░░░ brought us uh the ░░░░░░░░ in Afghanistan uh the ░░░░░░░░ endless hunt for U ░░░░░░░░ nationalists in the ranks ░░░░░░░░ is the most integrated ░░░░░░░░ in America and the ░░░░░░░░ thing that they they ░░░░░░░░ is oh well we ░░░░░░░░ to have a a ░░░░░░░░ down they literally told ░░░░░░░░ unit you know stand ░░░░░░░░ and spend time thinking ░░░░░░░░ DEI and Critical Race ░░░░░░░░ and you know white ░░░░░░░░ feel guilty about what ░░░░░░░░ did and black people ░░░░░░░░ like victims of slavery ░░░░░░░░ on and on and ░░░░░░░░ and then U Austin ░░░░░░░░ a surgery he disappeared ░░░░░░░░ I don t know ░░░░░░░░ 10 days didn t ░░░░░░░░ the president United States ░░░░░░░░ t tell the White ░░░░░░░░ chief of staff didn ░░░░░░░░ tell the National Security ░░░░░░░░ and uh look you ░░░░░░░░ to get surgery that ░░░░░░░░ fine there s nothing ░░░░░░░░ with that and if ░░░░░░░░ don t want to ░░░░░░░░ it public cuz you ░░░░░░░░ you know embarrassed about ░░░░░░░░ prostate cancer or whatever ░░░░░░░░ is you don t ░░░░░░░░ to give a press ░░░░░░░░ but you absolutely need ░░░░░░░░ tell the president United ░░░░░░░░ the National Security adviser ░░░░░░░░ I m going under ░░░░░░░░ knife I need to ░░░░░░░░ some time off please ░░░░░░░░ with my deputies if ░░░░░░░░ s really crazy contact ░░░░░░░░ if not I m ░░░░░░░░ to take a week ░░░░░░░░ and try to get ░░░░░░░░ and the response is ░░░░░░░░ get better wonderful you ░░░░░░░░ you look forward to ░░░░░░░░ when you re better ░░░░░░░░ s a okay okay ░░░░░░░░ you don t do ░░░░░░░░ just disappear go awall ░░░░░░░░ guy running the Pentagon ░░░░░░░░ nobody knows where he ░░░░░░░░ for three four five ░░░░░░░░ uh I think Pete ░░░░░░░░ can do better than ░░░░░░░░ um I think if ░░░░░░░░ can do better than ░░░░░░░░ Austin has done that ░░░░░░░░ be a great uh ░░░░░░░░ as uh Secretary of ░░░░░░░░ and uh I m ░░░░░░░░ forward to great service ░░░░░░░░ him as uh running ░░░░░░░░ Pentagon well I encourage ░░░░░░░░ listeners right now to ░░░░░░░░ out your article on ░░░░░░░░ on spectator in The ░░░░░░░░ because you ve really ░░░░░░░░ all of the people ░░░░░░░░ have come with their ░░░░░░░░ attached to it that ░░░░░░░░ worked with Pete Heth ░░░░░░░░ would know him as ░░░░░░░░ individual a lot of ░░░░░░░░ are likening this to ░░░░░░░░ Kavanagh treatment and they ░░░░░░░░ really honed in on ░░░░░░░░ Heath of all of ░░░░░░░░ of the nominations and ░░░░░░░░ have very nicely uh ░░░░░░░░ all of these these ░░░░░░░░ who are defending him ░░░░░░░░ with their name attached ░░░░░░░░ I said into one ░░░░░░░░ for people to understand ░░░░░░░░ there are a lot ░░░░░░░░ character Witnesses out there ░░░░░░░░ don t mind being ░░░░░░░░ attached to supporting him ░░░░░░░░ hopefully we ll see ░░░░░░░░ Trump get his cabinet ░░░░░░░░ and get this done ░░░░░░░░ pretty quickly yeah I ░░░░░░░░ re absolutely right about ░░░░░░░░ the piece is on ░░░░░░░░ Spectator website right now ░░░░░░░░ I I quote 15 ░░░░░░░░ anonymous sources in the ░░░░░░░░ story 10 of them ░░░░░░░░ of them with names ░░░░░░░░ I have 15 people ░░░░░░░░ with their names attached ░░░░░░░░ say they ve worked ░░░░░░░░ Pete Heth over the ░░░░░░░░ they ve never seen ░░░░░░░░ intoxicated never smelled alcohol ░░░░░░░░ his breath None of ░░░░░░░░ behavior that s uh ░░░░░░░░ in the NBC News ░░░░░░░░ None of them has ░░░░░░░░ anything like this the ░░░░░░░░ most compelling Witnesses I ░░░░░░░░ are his co hosts ░░░░░░░░ Fox and friend s ░░░░░░░░ uh will Kaine and ░░░░░░░░ said the following um ░░░░░░░░ said put my name ░░░░░░░░ it on the record ░░░░░░░░ ll it ll be ░░░░░░░░ only record Source um ░░░░░░░░ know P excess these ░░░░░░░░ worked with them all ░░░░░░░░ years I said sign ░░░░░░░░ guy who sat next ░░░░░░░░ him for eight hours ░░░░░░░░ week for 5 years ░░░░░░░░ at 6 A M ░░░░░░░░ he uh he referred ░░░░░░░░ thenbc new news story ░░░░░░░░ shall we say horse ░░░░░░░░ that s I guess ░░░░░░░░ it yeah he did ░░░░░░░░ the air Rachel campus ░░░░░░░░ um who s the ░░░░░░░░ co host with with ░░░░░░░░ at Fox and Friends ░░░░░░░░ says here the losers ░░░░░░░░ News never reach out ░░░░░░░░ me either um will ░░░░░░░░ is right uh you ░░░░░░░░ now you now have ░░░░░░░░ people who sat next ░░░░░░░░ him eight eight plus ░░░░░░░░ a week on the ░░░░░░░░ will you retract or ░░░░░░░░ your story and I ░░░░░░░░ it s very significant ░░░░░░░░ they worked with him ░░░░░░░░ weekend uh sometimes during ░░░░░░░░ he ll also fill ░░░░░░░░ during the week sometimes ░░░░░░░░ at 6 00 in ░░░░░░░░ morning now if you ░░░░░░░░ out in a bender ░░░░░░░░ know you might be ░░░░░░░░ to get your act ░░░░░░░░ for a 400 P ░░░░░░░░ M or 5 00 ░░░░░░░░ M broadcast if you ░░░░░░░░ on at 6 00 ░░░░░░░░ the morning uh you ░░░░░░░░ there there you re ░░░░░░░░ likely going to smell ░░░░░░░░ booze and be kind ░░░░░░░░ stumbly and not in ░░░░░░░░ good shape and you ░░░░░░░░ clutching on your stomach ░░░░░░░░ know drinking down Alka ░░░░░░░░ um so if he ░░░░░░░░ fact went on these ░░░░░░░░ that are alleged in ░░░░░░░░ story people who were ░░░░░░░░ with him on the ░░░░░░░░ at 6 in the ░░░░░░░░ are going to notice ░░░░░░░░ for eight years these ░░░░░░░░ worked you know literally ░░░░░░░░ right next to him ░░░░░░░░ say they saw no ░░░░░░░░ thing so that story ░░░░░░░░ from NBC News uh ░░░░░░░░ was on my I ░░░░░░░░ my journalism career on ░░░░░░░░ uh junior high school ░░░░░░░░ nth grade and we ░░░░░░░░ told you know you ░░░░░░░░ to have sources with ░░░░░░░░ on them especially you ░░░░░░░░ alleging people uh of ░░░░░░░░ know crimes or misbehavior ░░░░░░░░ and that NBC News ░░░░░░░░ did not reach up ░░░░░░░░ the level of what ░░░░░░░░ was expected of me ░░░░░░░░ a journalist on a ░░░░░░░░ high school paper yeah ░░░░░░░░ we need to get ░░░░░░░░ back to that line ░░░░░░░░ thinking last question before ░░░░░░░░ let you go we ░░░░░░░░ speaking with Dory Murdoch ░░░░░░░░ you can check his ░░░░░░░░ out in The Spectator ░░░░░░░░ to spectator org to ░░░░░░░░ dy s piece on ░░░░░░░░ Heth um Atlantic you ░░░░░░░░ the Atlantic and gosh ░░░░░░░░ s like all you ░░░░░░░░ to say is there ░░░░░░░░ a piece in the ░░░░░░░░ the blank and then ░░░░░░░░ everybody knows at this ░░░░░░░░ where we re headed ░░░░░░░░ whatever the subject matter ░░░░░░░░ did Donald Trump s ░░░░░░░░ have a a measurable ░░░░░░░░ on how these types ░░░░░░░░ media Outlets this this ░░░░░░░░ of Journalism how successful ░░░░░░░░ s going to be ░░░░░░░░ the next coming years ░░░░░░░░ don t sense much ░░░░░░░░ that uh introspection if ░░░░░░░░ will on the part ░░░░░░░░ the Jour of media ░░░░░░░░ do see some Democrats ░░░░░░░░ look we we pushed ░░░░░░░░ too far we ve ░░░░░░░░ to dial this back ░░░░░░░░ there s a gentleman ░░░░░░░░ name I I can ░░░░░░░░ think of his name ░░░░░░░░ now I m afraid ░░░░░░░░ he s a former ░░░░░░░░ York State senator who ░░░░░░░░ running for a DNC ░░░░░░░░ and I saw an ░░░░░░░░ with him and he ░░░░░░░░ saying look we need ░░░░░░░░ move more to the ░░░░░░░░ uh you know been ░░░░░░░░ extremist stuff you know ░░░░░░░░ don t want to ░░░░░░░░ how they want to ░░░░░░░░ how they re going ░░░░░░░░ pay their grocery bills ░░░░░░░░ don t want to ░░░░░░░░ about uh you know ░░░░░░░░ their 10 year old ░░░░░░░░ s penis needs to ░░░░░░░░ removed and he needs ░░░░░░░░ go from being you ░░░░░░░░ jacked to Janet they ░░░░░░░░ not interested in that ░░░░░░░░ that gives me a ░░░░░░░░ that the elected officials ░░░░░░░░ the Democrat Party to ░░░░░░░░ degree are thinking about ░░░░░░░░ sort of thing I ░░░░░░░░ not seen anything from ░░░░░░░░ in the media on ░░░░░░░░ left other than you ░░░░░░░░ he s still Hitler ░░░░░░░░ we got to stop ░░░░░░░░ and he s out ░░░░░░░░ control and he has ░░░░░░░░ right to do this ░░░░░░░░ election uh you know ░░░░░░░░ ve not I ve ░░░░░░░░ seen any I can ░░░░░░░░ think of anybody in ░░░░░░░░ media who dial things ░░░░░░░░ uh some of the ░░░░░░░░ of the politicians a ░░░░░░░░ bit None of the ░░░░░░░░ I ve been able ░░░░░░░░ Tech that s still ░░░░░░░░ know Full Speed Ahead ░░░░░░░░ tear Trump down no ░░░░░░░░ what sure looks like ░░░░░░░░ consumers of that media ░░░░░░░░ decided to opt out ░░░░░░░░ least maybe for the ░░░░░░░░ season maybe they ll ░░░░░░░░ back uh come mid ░░░░░░░░ next year when things ░░░░░░░░ start to fire up ░░░░░░░░ it looks to me ░░░░░░░░ the American people are ░░░░░░░░ well enough of that ░░░░░░░░ they felt lied to ░░░░░░░░ quite some time but ░░░░░░░░ shall see yeah well ░░░░░░░░ journalism by you and ░░░░░░░░ spor we appreciate you ░░░░░░░░ always and look forward ░░░░░░░░ having you back next ░░░░░░░░ all right Andy likewise ░░░░░░░░ ll talk to you ░░░░░░░░ thank you care bye ░░░░░░░░ Dr Dro Murdoch is ░░░░░░░░ nationally syndicated colonist Fox ░░░░░░░░ contributor as well