Van Jones: Biden Has Used Pardon More Sparingly for People Who Are Not His Son than You’d Expect from a Dem President

COLLINS Well and Van ░░░░░░░░ mean I just am ░░░░░░░░ for your perspective because ░░░░░░░░ have long time been ░░░░░░░░ leader for in criminal ░░░░░░░░ reform You ve led ░░░░░░░░ you founded organizations that ░░░░░░░░ people get pardons So ░░░░░░░░ you view this and ░░░░░░░░ Biden said in his ░░░░░░░░ to pardon Hunter Biden ░░░░░░░░ do you make of ░░░░░░░░ Jones Well look I ░░░░░░░░ not surprised and I ░░░░░░░░ willing to give Biden ░░░░░░░░ pass because his son ░░░░░░░░ going to be sitting ░░░░░░░░ federal prison while Trump ░░░░░░░░ pardoning pardoning insurrectionists and ░░░░░░░░ kind of stuff At ░░░░░░░░ point this stuff just ░░░░░░░░ very human My criticism ░░░░░░░░ President Biden is different ░░░░░░░░ s used the power ░░░░░░░░ the pardon more sparingly ░░░░░░░░ people who are not ░░░░░░░░ son than you would ░░░░░░░░ from a Democratic president ░░░░░░░░ have been a there ░░░░░░░░ been a lot of ░░░░░░░░ in the criminal justice ░░░░░░░░ that a lot more ░░░░░░░░ could use that kind ░░░░░░░░ relief In this case ░░░░░░░░ he s an elderly ░░░░░░░░ He s got to ░░░░░░░░ there are a lot ░░░░░░░░ trouble If he wants ░░░░░░░░ do himself a solid ░░░░░░░░ the way out the ░░░░░░░░ I ll let other ░░░░░░░░ scream about that But ░░░░░░░░ about everybody else who ░░░░░░░░ sitting there with actual ░░░░░░░░ of justice who ve ░░░░░░░░ no relief in the ░░░░░░░░ Administration That s a ░░░░░░░░ problem to me COLLINS ░░░░░░░░ yes Van I mean ░░░░░░░░ that point if you ░░░░░░░░ if the point is ░░░░░░░░ concerns that Trump is ░░░░░░░░ into office and the ░░░░░░░░ he s appointing might ░░░░░░░░ Hunter Biden even further ░░░░░░░░ this even though he ░░░░░░░░ found guilty by a ░░░░░░░░ of his peers I ░░░░░░░░ note Why not pardon ░░░░░░░░ McCabe and Gina Haspel ░░░░░░░░ Jones Sure COLLINS Mark ░░░░░░░░ and all these people ░░░░░░░░ are on their target ░░░░░░░░ if you say that ░░░░░░░░ s why that that ░░░░░░░░ the motivation here Jones ░░░░░░░░ I mean I mean ░░░░░░░░ ve gone through this ░░░░░░░░ this rabbit hole now ░░░░░░░░ allegations of the justice ░░░░░░░░ being politicized or being ░░░░░░░░ around on both sides ░░░░░░░░ think it s bad ░░░░░░░░ the country I do ░░░░░░░░ there should be a ░░░░░░░░ process to pardon people ░░░░░░░░ think the Biden Administration ░░░░░░░░ been relaxed on that ░░░░░░░░ if you re going ░░░░░░░░ do it don t ░░░░░░░░ do it for your ░░░░░░░░ There are a lot ░░░░░░░░ people that the Trump ░░░░░░░░ might go after Protect ░░░░░░░░ And there are a ░░░░░░░░ of just everyday people ░░░░░░░░ have sitting there been ░░░░░░░░ for relief for years ░░░░░░░░ years If you re ░░░░░░░░ to do it don ░░░░░░░░ just do it for ░░░░░░░░ son There are a ░░░░░░░░ of American sons and ░░░░░░░░ who could use the ░░░░░░░░ kind of relief COLLINS ░░░░░░░░ I was covering President ░░░░░░░░ when he came into ░░░░░░░░ and — and —“