Courtroom Sketch Artist Says Giuliani Is ‘Losing It’: ‘I Feel Bad for Anyone Who Represents Him’

COLLINS Jane Rosenberg the ░░░░░░░░ sketch artist who captured ░░░░░░░░ moment that you just ░░░░░░░░ there She s also ░░░░░░░░ Author of Drawn Testimony ░░░░░░░░ Four Decades as a ░░░░░░░░ Sketch Jane given your ░░░░░░░░ in court can you ░░░░░░░░ tell us what it ░░░░░░░░ like inside that room ░░░░░░░░ ROSENBERG His decorum has ░░░░░░░░ changed from when I ░░░░░░░░ him 44 years ago ░░░░░░░░ a prosecutor He s ░░░░░░░░ it He was wild ░░░░░░░░ mean I feel bad ░░░░░░░░ anyone who represents him ░░░░░░░░ blurts out orders at ░░░░░░░░ lawyers who are at ░░░░░░░░ podium and he s ░░░░░░░░ all the time COLLINS ░░░░░░░░ s yelling at his ░░░░░░░░ while they re out ░░░░░░░░ ROSENBERG He s yelling ░░░░░░░░ his attorney His attorney ░░░░░░░░ turning around like he ░░░░░░░░ t know how to ░░░░░░░░ it He s in ░░░░░░░░ middle of speaking to ░░░░░░░░ judge at the podium ░░░░░░░░ behind him is shouting ░░░░░░░░ s shouting order That ░░░░░░░░ the attorney who just ░░░░░░░░ the day after that ░░░░░░░░ now he has a ░░░░░░░░ attorney And so this ░░░░░░░░ tried to speak and ░░░░░░░░ the judge told him ░░░░░░░░ s not allowed to ░░░░░░░░ anymore after he had ░░░░░░░░ burst he started shouting ░░░░░░░░ him and pointing at ░░░░░░░░ and he said You ░░░░░░░░ have to represent yourself ░░░░░░░░ you pro se But ░░░░░░░░ you re having a ░░░░░░░░ I m only going ░░░░░░░░ hear one of you ░░░░░░░░ you could be a ░░░░░░░░ in the trial But ░░░░░░░░ forgot where I was ░░░░░░░░ COLLINS What was it ░░░░░░░░ to hear him saying ░░░░░░░░ mean we just have ░░░░░░░░ about Rudy Giuliani s ░░░░░░░░ from grace so much ░░░░░░░░ detailed it But what ░░░░░░░░ it like to hear ░░░░░░░░ saying I can t ░░░░░░░░ my bills I don ░░░░░░░░ have cash ROSENBERG I ░░░░░░░░ t really feel sorry ░░░░░░░░ him I m sure ░░░░░░░░ s managing okay And ░░░░░░░░ s and these women ░░░░░░░░ he s defamed they ░░░░░░░░ not seeing much of ░░░░░░░░ at all I mean ░░░░░░░░ he said I gave ░░░░░░░░ car away but he ░░░░░░░░ t give he gave ░░░░░░░░ keys without the paperwork ░░░░░░░░ didn t give the ░░░░░░░░ So what the judge ░░░░░░░░ said What good is ░░░░░░░░ car without the title ░░░░░░░░ Yeah Elie how does ░░░░░░░░ work where I mean ░░░░░░░░ does turn over his ░░░░░░░░ Mercedes But there s ░░░░░░░░ s it s not ░░░░░░░░ it s worthless it ░░░░░░░░ still the car but ░░░░░░░░ s no like they ░░░░░░░░ t actually own it ░░░░░░░░ they don t have ░░░░░░░░ title for it yet ░░░░░░░░ Yeah there are a ░░░░░░░░ of people who Rudy ░░░░░░░░ owes money to He ░░░░░░░░ the most to Ms ░░░░░░░░ and Ms Freeman a ░░░░░░░░ plus million Nobody s ░░░░░░░░ going to be made ░░░░░░░░ Even if Rudy actually ░░░░░░░░ able or willing to ░░░░░░░░ over his asset he ░░░░░░░░ never give them a ░░░░░░░░ of what they re ░░░░░░░░ To a point that ░░░░░░░░ made and you made ░░░░░░░░ Rudy Giuliani s fall ░░░░░░░░ grace has been beyond ░░░░░░░░ It s been Shakespearean ░░░░░░░░ mean it s hard ░░░░░░░░ remember but in the ░░░░░░░░ Jane when you started ░░░░░░░░ before my time but ░░░░░░░░ was a revered figure ░░░░░░░░ New York City He ░░░░░░░░ the king of St ░░░░░░░░ Plaza down where the ░░░░░░░░ is He was the ░░░░░░░░ powerful person there He ░░░░░░░░ feared and respected But ░░░░░░░░ arrogance also did poke ░░░░░░░░ in the 80s right ░░░░░░░░ now that arrogance and ░░░░░░░░ has taken him all ░░░░░░░░ way down.”