NYT’s Lulu Garcia-Navarro: ‘Donald Trump Is at War with the Fact-Based Media’

RUSH TRANSCRIPT Wallace That ░░░░░░░░ the question will Trump ░░░░░░░░ after reporters and their ░░░░░░░░ bosses with investigations challenges ░░░░░░░░ license renewals and big ░░░░░░░░ Here was former Trump ░░░░░░░░ Steve Bannon just out ░░░░░░░░ prison Clip starts Bannon ░░░░░░░░ Melber on all you ░░░░░░░░ Preserve your documents All ░░░░░░░░ it You better be ░░░░░░░░ You better lawyer up ░░░░░░░░ call mom and dad ░░░░░░░░ Hey mom and dad ░░░░░░░░ know a good lawyer ░░░░░░░░ up Clip ends Wallace ░░░░░░░░ he knows something about ░░░░░░░░ up Lulu will Trump ░░░░░░░░ to punish the media ░░░░░░░░ m not talking about ░░░░░░░░ stuff No I know ░░░░░░░░ fake media I m ░░░░░░░░ about about going after ░░░░░░░░ He talked about killing ░░░░░░░░ act that would protect ░░░░░░░░ from having to reveal ░░░░░░░░ sources Going after corporate ░░░░░░░░ license renewals will he ░░░░░░░░ to punish the media ░░░░░░░░ NAVARRO I mean that ░░░░░░░░ the fear And it ░░░░░░░░ the flip side of ░░░░░░░░ we were talking about ░░░░░░░░ with media and owning ░░░░░░░░ message How do you ░░░░░░░░ the message Well you ░░░░░░░░ to also kind of ░░░░░░░░ the other part of ░░░░░░░░ The fact based media ░░░░░░░░ might act as a ░░░░░░░░ to that And so ░░░░░░░░ know I think that ░░░░░░░░ famous saying we re ░░░░░░░░ at war we re ░░░░░░░░ work which Marty Baron ░░░░░░░░ the Washington Post during ░░░░░░░░ first Trump Administration to ░░░░░░░░ about what the attitude ░░░░░░░░ the fact based media ░░░░░░░░ be in the Trump ░░░░░░░░ I think is something ░░░░░░░░ they re adopting this ░░░░░░░░ I also think that ░░░░░░░░ s clear that Donald ░░░░░░░░ is at war with ░░░░░░░░ fact based media Wallace ░░░░░░░░ war Garcia NAVARRO I ░░░░░░░░ so I mean I ░░░░░░░░ all those comments that ░░░░░░░░ said I mean he ░░░░░░░░ he s um he ░░░░░░░░ basically saying a statement ░░░░░░░░ intent I mean are ░░░░░░░░ not going to take ░░░░░░░░ Trump seriously after all ░░░░░░░░ time I mean I ░░░░░░░░ don t understand like ░░░░░░░░ take him seriously with ░░░░░░░░ else And so I ░░░░░░░░ know I don t ░░░░░░░░ why we wouldn t ░░░░░░░░ time Wallace Again Reihan ░░░░░░░░ want to be clear ░░░░░░░░ I m not talking ░░░░░░░░ him saying bad things ░░░░░░░░ us I m talking ░░░░░░░░ him taking reporters to ░░░░░░░░ trying to block our ░░░░░░░░ The people that own ░░░░░░░░ companies from conducting mergers ░░░░░░░░ renewing licenses I mean ░░░░░░░░ using the power of ░░░░░░░░ government is the concern ░░░░░░░░ Trump trying to curb ░░░░░░░░ free press legitimate or ░░░░░░░░ SALAM well I think ░░░░░░░░ people are certainly allowed ░░░░░░░░ be concerned about anything ░░░░░░░░ d like to be ░░░░░░░░ about I think the ░░░░░░░░ I think the danger ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump faces is ░░░░░░░░ a thermostatic reaction that ░░░░░░░░ saying things that are ░░░░░░░░ to elicit a really ░░░░░░░░ civil society response and ░░░░░░░░ response from people that ░░░░░░░░ depends on If he ░░░░░░░░ to be too extreme ░░░░░░░░ has always been the ░░░░░░░░ for Donald Trump that ░░░░░░░░ faces And I think ░░░░░░░░ the net effect of ░░░░░░░░ of this talk is ░░░░░░░░ going to be that ░░░░░░░░ re going to really ░░░░░░░░ and embolden the media ░░░░░░░░ the first Trump presidency ░░░░░░░░ was an incredible time ░░░░░░░░ legacy incumbent media organizations ░░░░░░░░ of them that have ░░░░░░░░ deep internal divides really ░░░░░░░░ internal problems The money ░░░░░░░░ rushing in The pride ░░░░░░░░ there the energy and ░░░░░░░░ and enthusiasm was there ░░░░░░░░ think you may well ░░░░░░░░ that again I also ░░░░░░░░ some course correction I ░░░░░░░░ some of these institutions ░░░░░░░░ are thinking a lot ░░░░░░░░ how they torched their ░░░░░░░░ and—“