BIDEN

Martin You don t ░░░░░░░░ think he s going ░░░░░░░░ do it but you ░░░░░░░░ said look this is ░░░░░░░░ time this is not ░░░░░░░░ time to hold back ░░░░░░░░ is the time to ░░░░░░░░ bold action I m ░░░░░░░░ wondering if you feel ░░░░░░░░ all surprised by your ░░░░░░░░ point of view on ░░░░░░░░ I mean you are ░░░░░░░░ with me in all ░░░░░░░░ sort of appropriately lawyerly ░░░░░░░░ but what you are ░░░░░░░░ is in fact a ░░░░░░░░ radical thing for for ░░░░░░░░ least establishment Washington to ░░░░░░░░ And I just wonder ░░░░░░░░ there s any part ░░░░░░░░ you that s surprised ░░░░░░░░ you think that ROSENZWEIG ░░░░░░░░ all of it all ░░░░░░░░ it You know I ░░░░░░░░ not only a Washington ░░░░░░░░ and a traditional lawyer ░░░░░░░░ am a traditional conservative ░░░░░░░░ lawyer I worked for ░░░░░░░░ George W Bush as ░░░░░░░░ political appointee in the ░░░░░░░░ of Homeland Security In ░░░░░░░░ I joined the Federalist ░░░░░░░░ The you know Society ░░░░░░░░ Conservative Lawyers This is ░░░░░░░░ who I ever thought ░░░░░░░░ would be It is ░░░░░░░░ who I have considered ░░░░░░░░ to be still but ░░░░░░░░ the same time it ░░░░░░░░ to me impossible not ░░░░░░░░ recognize that the facts ░░░░░░░░ the grounds change We ░░░░░░░░ not arguing about you ░░░░░░░░ what the right tax ░░░░░░░░ is or whether or ░░░░░░░░ the EPA overregulates benzene ░░░░░░░░ or you know anything ░░░░░░░░ that anymore What is ░░░░░░░░ to me is frankly ░░░░░░░░ same thing that became ░░░░░░░░ to people like me ░░░░░░░░ Liz Cheney that Donald ░░░░░░░░ is transgressive in his ░░░░░░░░ He is a mold ░░░░░░░░ and it s irresponsible ░░░░░░░░ to see him as ░░░░░░░░ he truly is an ░░░░░░░░ threat to the very ░░░░░░░░ of democracy Now people ░░░░░░░░ say that s extreme ░░░░░░░░ I hope like heck ░░░░░░░░ I am overstating it ░░░░░░░░ the threat but I ░░░░░░░░ that the course of ░░░░░░░░ last eight years says ░░░░░░░░ And the course of ░░░░░░░░ last two weeks super ░░░░░░░░ not as Trump begins ░░░░░░░░ roll out his initiatives ░░░░░░░░ the next administration And ░░░░░░░░ that in mind if ░░░░░░░░ think that democracy is ░░░░░░░░ you have to stand ░░░░░░░░ and defend it You ░░░░░░░░ t obey in advance ░░░░░░░░ have to stand up ░░░░░░░░ stand out Martin Paul ░░░░░░░░ thank you so much ░░░░░░░░ speaking with us.”