Tucker on Columbus Day Controversy: We’re Watching a Full-Scale Assault from Within on the West Itself

RUSH TRANSCRIPT Jason Nichols ░░░░░░░░ a professor at the ░░░░░░░░ of Maryland and he ░░░░░░░░ us tonight Professor thanks ░░░░░░░░ lot for coming on ░░░░░░░░ you talker good to ░░░░░░░░ you again Tucker People ░░░░░░░░ upset about Columbus Here ░░░░░░░░ the lens through which ░░░░░░░░ view this Here you ░░░░░░░░ an immigrant from a ░░░░░░░░ speaking country coming to ░░░░░░░░ continent for a better ░░░░░░░░ and you are saying ░░░░░░░░ not welcome here That ░░░░░░░░ like bigotry to me ░░░░░░░░ let me adjuster lends ░░░░░░░░ little bit We have ░░░░░░░░ person coming from outside ░░░░░░░░ our borders coming and ░░░░░░░░ and killing 200 000 ░░░░░░░░ 000 American citizens in ░░░░░░░░ years Would probably call ░░░░░░░░ person a terrorist correct ░░░░░░░░ of the people we ░░░░░░░░ t want in our ░░░░░░░░ the bad immigrants who ░░░░░░░░ that and try to ░░░░░░░░ out Tucker I hate ░░░░░░░░ give a history lesson ░░░░░░░░ a professor but Columbus ░░░░░░░░ not kill 200 000 ░░░░░░░░ What you are referring ░░░░░░░░ or the viruses that ░░░░░░░░ and his crew and ░░░░░░░░ waves of explorers and ░░░░░░░░ from your brought to ░░░░░░░░ new world that decimated ░░░░░░░░ native population which is ░░░░░░░░ a tragedy but it ░░░░░░░░ very different from what ░░░░░░░░ re saying And also ░░░░░░░░ about European brutality He ░░░░░░░░ the map basically for ░░░░░░░░ trans atlantic slave trade ░░░░░░░░ was the first person ░░░░░░░░ take captives across the ░░░░░░░░ Again he was part ░░░░░░░░ things that I think ░░░░░░░░ Americans we don t ░░░░░░░░ for You are aware ░░░░░░░░ was pre existing in ░░░░░░░░ Americas The native population ░░░░░░░░ slavery as I m ░░░░░░░░ you know My only ░░░░░░░░ I m not even ░░░░░░░░ I m not defending ░░░░░░░░ I don t need ░░░░░░░░ he s not a ░░░░░░░░ of mine he s ░░░░░░░░ dead for 500 years ░░░░░░░░ just want to make ░░░░░░░░ points one that history ░░░░░░░░ a lot more complex ░░░░░░░░ theologians were mishandling it ░░░░░░░░ are complicated This is ░░░░░░░░ really about Columbus it ░░░░░░░░ about attacking western civilization ░░░░░░░░ influence on the Americas ░░░░░░░░ should think through the ░░░░░░░░ of it don t ░░░░░░░░ think you might Again ░░░░░░░░ view it very differently ░░░░░░░░ think that this is ░░░░░░░░ people like Columbus We ░░░░░░░░ t go and talk ░░░░░░░░ people who kill 200 ░░░░░░░░ people through whatever means ░░░░░░░░ enslaved people Columbus on ░░░░░░░░ occasion actually for a ░░░░░░░░ who stole corn he ░░░░░░░░ off his ears and ░░░░░░░░ and sold him into ░░░░░░░░ That s the kind ░░░░░░░░ brutality that we represent ░░░░░░░░ really don t think ░░░░░░░░ Tucker It s not ░░░░░░░░ think you will concede ░░░░░░░░ in 15th century North ░░░░░░░░ as in 15th century ░░░░░░░░ brutality was universal and ░░░░░░░░ s appalling and I ░░░░░░░░ never defend any of ░░░░░░░░ thank God I don ░░░░░░░░ have to To pretend ░░░░░░░░ was the only one ░░░░░░░░ it was a historical ░░░░░░░░ wrong Let s just ░░░░░░░░ it in as you ░░░░░░░░ say it is a ░░░░░░░░ on the left into ░░░░░░░░ context here fair I ░░░░░░░░ not saying he s ░░░░░░░░ only person committing violence ░░░░░░░░ would be like saying ░░░░░░░░ bin Laden is the ░░░░░░░░ terrorist We have many ░░░░░░░░ who have committed atrocities ░░░░░░░░ history I think when ░░░░░░░░ talk about historical context ░░░░░░░░ thing never changes killing ░░░░░░░░ amounts of people facilitating ░░░░░░░░ rape and murder of ░░░░░░░░ of people is never ░░░░░░░░ acceptable Never talk about ░░░░░░░░ in positive terms Tucker ░░░░░░░░ s not about Columbus ░░░░░░░░ Italian that was acting ░░░░░░░░ behalf of the Spanish ░░░░░░░░ The subsequent waves of ░░░░░░░░ who came to this ░░░░░░░░ obviously hurt a lot ░░░░░░░░ the indigenous population but ░░░░░░░░ had a pretty great ░░░░░░░░ on the continent They ░░░░░░░░ it into America which ░░░░░░░░ this day is a ░░░░░░░░ of hope for the ░░░░░░░░ that s what everyone ░░░░░░░░ to come here We ░░░░░░░░ trying to delegitimize that ░░░░░░░░ let s be honest ░░░░░░░░ that Again I disagree ░░░░░░░░ are talking about the ░░░░░░░░ of the United States ░░░░░░░░ never made it here ░░░░░░░░ re talking about people ░░░░░░░░ came the Europeans who ░░░░░░░░ to Ellis island and ░░░░░░░░ places that influence we ░░░░░░░░ say for the most ░░░░░░░░ has been positive They ░░░░░░░░ done some good things ░░░░░░░░ bad things I don ░░░░░░░░ think there s any ░░░░░░░░ would sit here and ░░░░░░░░ we shouldn t have ░░░░░░░░ Europeans here in the ░░░░░░░░ States but when they ░░░░░░░░ and threaten Tucker I ░░░░░░░░ our people in the ░░░░░░░░ who would say that ░░░░░░░░ think of you are ░░░░░░░░ one of them I ░░░░░░░░ baffled by this indigenous ░░░░░░░░ day No one is ░░░░░░░░ indigenous They came here ░░░░░░░░ the land bridge like ░░░░░░░░ else however I m ░░░░░░░░ against that We are ░░░░░░░░ immigrants including the American ░░░░░░░░ as you know My ░░░░░░░░ to you is all ░░░░░░░░ people are suddenly and ░░░░░░░░ with the native population ░░░░░░░░ America I don t ░░░░░░░░ them sending any money ░░░░░░░░ the pine ridge Indian ░░░░░░░░ in South Dakota basically ░░░░░░░░ poorest place in the ░░░░░░░░ why is that It ░░░░░░░░ all kind of theoretical ░░░░░░░░ all the symbolic gestures ░░░░░░░░ support but no actual ░░░░░░░░ Have you noticed that ░░░░░░░░ think that there s ░░░░░░░░ that many of us ░░░░░░░░ do to help our ░░░░░░░░ I think that that ░░░░░░░░ relate to the indigenous ░░░░░░░░ is owed by the ░░░░░░░░ States government They are ░░░░░░░░ people who owe spin ░░░░░░░░ they have spent a ░░░░░░░░ They have spent an ░░░░░░░░ lot it hasn t ░░░░░░░░ Why are you off ░░░░░░░░ the responsibility to the ░░░░░░░░ You are calling for ░░░░░░░░ peoples day what are ░░░░░░░░ send a check for ░░░░░░░░ grand to indigenous people ░░░░░░░░ bet they would appreciate ░░░░░░░░ I know they went ░░░░░░░░ spoken to them Maybe ░░░░░░░░ you give me a ░░░░░░░░ I will have that ░░░░░░░░ grand but it s ░░░░░░░░ the average American that ░░░░░░░░ indigenous people from their ░░░░░░░░ during the trail of ░░░░░░░░ that was the United ░░░░░░░░ government and actually some ░░░░░░░░ the President Trump raised ░░░░░░░░ are the acts of ░░░░░░░░ government who owes the ░░░░░░░░ people Tucker Let me ░░░░░░░░ you really quick are ░░░░░░░░ aware I think the ░░░░░░░░ of tears is appalling ░░░░░░░░ the not defending it ░░░░░░░░ of the many bad ░░░░░░░░ our government has done ░░░░░░░░ are you aware that ░░░░░░░░ Indians brought their slaves ░░░░░░░░ them I m absolutely ░░░░░░░░ Tucker History is complicated ░░░░░░░░ s the only point ░░░░░░░░ m making Thank you ░░░░░░░░ joining us, appreciate it.