Donie O’Sullivan: MAGA Is ‘Openly Speaking’ of Process to Disrupt Certification if Trump Loses

COLLINS I think there ░░░░░░░░ some people who think ░░░░░░░░ deniers are you know ░░░░░░░░ fringe the crazies But ░░░░░░░░ you talk to these ░░░░░░░░ about how they see ░░░░░░░░ what is their mindset ░░░░░░░░ this Like they are ░░░░░░░░ to do something that ░░░░░░░░ illegal but in their ░░░░░░░░ they re doing the ░░░░░░░░ thing they re patriots ░░░░░░░░ SULLIVAN Yes it s ░░░░░░░░ It is the patriotic ░░░░░░░░ to do right Look ░░░░░░░░ weeks before the 2020 ░░░░░░░░ I was in a ░░░░░░░░ conference room in Arizona ░░░░░░░░ was the height of ░░░░░░░░ but there was a ░░░░░░░░ convention going on basically ░░░░░░░░ And it was all ░░░░░░░░ these folks saying Trump ░░░░░░░░ going to win by ░░░░░░░░ in a landslide and ░░░░░░░░ only way that s ░░░░░░░░ going to happen is ░░░░░░░░ it s stolen And ░░░░░░░░ it does get stolen ░░░░░░░░ re going to have ░░░░░░░░ do something about it ░░░░░░░░ that room alone I ░░░░░░░░ at least two of ░░░░░░░░ people there went to ░░░░░░░░ for January 6th one ░░░░░░░░ whom was Jacob Chansley ░░░░░░░░ known as the QAnon ░░░░░░░░ That sort of thinking ░░░░░░░░ years on has it ░░░░░░░░ not just in these ░░░░░░░░ bases anymore right I ░░░░░░░░ you hear Trump essentially ░░░░░░░░ to it And so ░░░░░░░░ of the people I ░░░░░░░░ spoken to say look ░░░░░░░░ battle for us we ░░░░░░░░ we have this election ░░░░░░░░ the bag The battle ░░░░░░░░ us begins at the ░░░░░░░░ process And I want ░░░░░░░░ play just one very ░░░░░░░░ clip of a MAGA ░░░░░░░░ somebody who has a ░░░░░░░░ following in this space ░░░░░░░░ s what he s ░░░░░░░░ Clip starts UNIDENTIFIED MALE ░░░░░░░░ s all going to ░░░░░░░░ on what they end ░░░░░░░░ doing I have a ░░░░░░░░ and strategy for every ░░░░░░░░ component of it And ░░░░░░░░ January 6th is going ░░░░░░░░ be pretty fun Clip ░░░░░░░░ O SULLIVAN He s ░░░░░░░░ about January 6 2025 ░░░░░░░░ by the way this ░░░░░░░░ certification or what should ░░░░░░░░ certification of the result ░░░░░░░░ to fall on January ░░░░░░░░ again this year So ░░░░░░░░ re very openly speaking ░░░░░░░░ this process and they ░░░░░░░░ a step by step ░░░░░░░░ COLLINS I mean they ░░░░░░░░ have podcasts about it ░░░░░░░░ Mitchell who maybe is ░░░░░░░░ a name that people ░░░░░░░░ but she was one ░░░░░░░░ the central figures helping ░░░░░░░░ Trump his election integrity ░░░░░░░░ at the RNC has ░░░░░░░░ indicted in Arizona she ░░░░░░░░ pleaded not guilty But ░░░░░░░░ Cleta Mitchell I was ░░░░░░░░ by listening you know ░░░░░░░░ didn t even know ░░░░░░░░ had a podcast until ░░░░░░░░ reporting on her talking ░░░░░░░░ you know counting the ░░░░░░░░ and what s really ░░░░░░░░ RUTENBERG Right And everyone ░░░░░░░░ to have a podcast ░░░░░░░░ I want to get ░░░░░░░░ myself But actually Cleta ░░░░░░░░ has done and has ░░░░░░░░ a national movement So ░░░░░░░░ people in local communities ░░░░░░░░ over the swing states ░░░░░░░░ started their own groups ░░░░░░░░ are and by the ░░░░░░░░ because you have the ░░░░░░░░ who can elect to ░░░░░░░░ certify again not legal ░░░░░░░░ they can do it ░░░░░░░░ there s a lot ░░░░░░░░ pressure on them at ░░░░░░░░ meetings And what I ░░░░░░░░ seen and what Donie ░░░░░░░░ think has seen is ░░░░░░░░ in these meetings these ░░░░░░░░ local meetings that are ░░░░░░░░ sewers and water issues ░░░░░░░░ street naming those have ░░░░░░░░ fora for real pressure ░░░░░░░░ these commissioners that when ░░░░░░░░ time comes to certify ░░░░░░░░ vote if we think ░░░░░░░░ s fraudulent we are ░░░░░░░░ to put a lot ░░░░░░░░ pressure on you to ░░░░░░░░ do it COLLINS Well ░░░░░░░░ you talked to one ░░░░░░░░ who was pressured and ░░░░░░░░ regretted it immediately And ░░░░░░░░ mean Donie these are ░░░░░░░░ who are facing intense ░░░░░░░░ of people showing up ░░░░░░░░ their meetings and saying ░░░░░░░░ better do this Like ░░░░░░░░ know where they live ░░░░░░░░ re small communities O ░░░░░░░░ Yeah.”