Jon Meacham: ‘Yes, [Trump] Is an Authoritarian Figure’

MEACHAM So as you ░░░░░░░░ the other night the ░░░░░░░░ cannot be clearer It ░░░░░░░░ can t I don ░░░░░░░░ know how it could ░░░░░░░░ what a lot of ░░░░░░░░ people who are kind ░░░░░░░░ on the bubble here ░░░░░░░░ are going to decide ░░░░░░░░ in many ways are ░░░░░░░░ who have to say ░░░░░░░░ who are in their ░░░░░░░░ saying Yeah Trump may ░░░░░░░░ crazy but she s ░░░░░░░░ socialist or whatever the ░░░░░░░░ is to get to ░░░░░░░░ they want to get ░░░░░░░░ they want to get ░░░░░░░░ voting for they want ░░░░░░░░ get to voting against ░░░░░░░░ right That that s ░░░░░░░░ any any justification you ░░░░░░░░ going to grab anything ░░░░░░░░ your way to try ░░░░░░░░ get there To me ░░░░░░░░ choice is yes he ░░░░░░░░ an authoritarian figure And ░░░░░░░░ because it didn t ░░░░░░░░ last time doesn t ░░░░░░░░ it won t work ░░░░░░░░ time If it weren ░░░░░░░░ for Mike Pence we ░░░░░░░░ well could have created ░░░░░░░░ days of chaos in ░░░░░░░░ country that would have ░░░░░░░░ to an election in ░░░░░░░░ House of Representatives that ░░░░░░░░ have taken a free ░░░░░░░░ fair election away from ░░░░░░░░ Biden Right I mean ░░░░░░░░ s BRZEZINSKI Jen MEACHAM ░░░░░░░░ again that s not ░░░░░░░░ speculating that s what ░░░░░░░░ said they wanted to ░░░░░░░░ So the choice here ░░░░░░░░ to be not all ░░░░░░░░ I understand he s ░░░░░░░░ authoritarian but he doesn ░░░░░░░░ really mean it Let ░░░░░░░░ try to be voters ░░░░░░░░ don t say but ░░░░░░░░ say and yes he ░░░░░░░░ a creepingly authoritarian figure ░░░░░░░░ therefore I m going ░░░░░░░░ vote I may disagree ░░░░░░░░ policy I may disagree ░░░░░░░░ this or that with ░░░░░░░░ President Harris But let ░░░░░░░░ be clear Vice President ░░░░░░░░ is not going to ░░░░░░░░ a mob to the ░░░░░░░░ and try to disrupt ░░░░░░░░ peaceful transfer of power ░░░░░░░░ Right MEACHAM She s ░░░░░░░░ going to talk about ░░░░░░░░ enemy within She s ░░░░░░░░ going to do this ░░░░░░░░ we if in fact ░░░░░░░░ know what I remember ░░░░░░░░ to some folks during ░░░░░░░░ 2020 cycle If he ░░░░░░░░ maybe this is who ░░░░░░░░ are And maybe that ░░░░░░░░ the complicated terrible reality ░░░░░░░░ re going to have ░░░░░░░░ confront But let s ░░░░░░░░ not to be that ░░░░░░░░