CNN Panelists Accuse Fmr. Vance Staffer of ‘Inventing’ the Ferguson and Floyd Effect When It’s Literally on CNN Website

PHILLIP just yesterday Ryan ░░░░░░░░ how in the context ░░░░░░░░ riots he was saying ░░░░░░░░ s just bring the ░░░░░░░░ into it to deal ░░░░░░░░ American citizens I mean ░░░░░░░░ happened yesterday GIRDUSKY Right ░░░░░░░░ there are the post ░░░░░░░░ Floyd riots resulted in ░░░░░░░░ of over 15 000 ░░░░░░░░ male deaths in this ░░░░░░░░ SELLERS How GIRDUSKY How ░░░░░░░░ surge of violent crime ░░░░░░░░ was like Ferguson the ░░░░░░░░ effect and the Floyd ░░░░░░░░ SELLERS Respectfully you got ░░░░░░░░ explain to me how ░░░░░░░░ Floyd s death GIRDUSKY ░░░░░░░░ SELLERS So I need ░░░░░░░░ causation here because you ░░░░░░░░ are messing me up ░░░░░░░░ Because what happened is ░░░░░░░░ the Ferguson riot and ░░░░░░░░ the Floyd riot policemen ░░░░░░░░ fear of their jobs ░░░░░░░░ times and political coverage ░░░░░░░░ back from your jobs ░░░░░░░░ in an increased level ░░░░░░░░ publicized PHILLIP Ryan listen ░░░░░░░░ got to stop you ░░░░░░░░ Hold on Hold on ░░░░░░░░ You can look at ░░░░░░░░ Washington Post numbers on ░░░░░░░░ PHILLIP Ryan we got ░░░░░░░░ stop you there because ░░░░░░░░ re literally making a ░░░░░░░░ out of your own ░░░░░░░░ You cannot just do ░░░░░░░░ GIRDUSKY It s a ░░░░░░░░ thing Look up the ░░░░░░░░ effect Look up the ░░░░░░░░ effect It is a ░░░░░░░░ term PHILLIP You cannot ░░░░░░░░ GIRDUSKY It s a ░░░░░░░░ term I didn t ░░░░░░░░ this up PHILLIP You ░░░░░░░░ just invent a connection ░░░░░░░░ two things just because ░░░░░░░░ want that connection to ░░░░░░░░ there GIRDUSKY It s ░░░░░░░░ a name It s ░░░░░░░░ real thing You can ░░░░░░░░ it up Allison It ░░░░░░░░ t mean it s ░░░░░░░░ It could be a ░░░░░░░░ but it doesn t ░░░░░░░░ crosstalk PHILLIP Hold on ░░░░░░░░ on Hold on I ░░░░░░░░ want everyone to settle ░░░░░░░░ because people cannot hear ░░░░░░░░ home when everybody s ░░░░░░░░ at once okay Go ░░░░░░░░ SELLERS No I just ░░░░░░░░ there has to be ░░░░░░░░ level of intellectual honesty ░░░░░░░░ one of the things ░░░░░░░░ can talk about here ░░░░░░░░ we talk about Donald ░░░░░░░░ is he s actually ░░░░░░░░ who never spoke out ░░░░░░░░ George Floyd s death ░░░░░░░░ for me it s ░░░░░░░░ of personal because as ░░░░░░░░ black man when you ░░░░░░░░ someone with a knee ░░░░░░░░ their neck for nine ░░░░░░░░ and some change and ░░░░░░░░ re actually calling out ░░░░░░░░ your mother while you ░░░░░░░░ being suffocated on national ░░░░░░░░ V and you are ░░░░░░░░ parent and a son ░░░░░░░░ a brother that goes ░░░░░░░░ long way The further ░░░░░░░░ kind of disingenuity or ░░░░░░░░ for me is you ░░░░░░░░ that what happened during ░░░░░░░░ time period Is to ░░░░░░░░ for the deaths of ░░░░░░░░ black men due to ░░░░░░░░ or what have you ░░░░░░░░ It 100 percent happen ░░░░░░░░ But that literally and ░░░░░░░░ point to you is ░░░░░░░░ makes absolutely no sense ░░░░░░░░ I would argue to ░░░░░░░░ as somebody that I ░░░░░░░░ not coming from a ░░░░░░░░ where I want fewer ░░░░░░░░ I don t I ░░░░░░░░ police actually to be ░░░░░░░░ more I just want ░░░░░░░░ police more qualified police ░░░░░░░░ want there to be ░░░░░░░░ database where police if ░░░░░░░░ commit bad acts they ░░░░░░░░ t just go from ░░░░░░░░ department to another That ░░░░░░░░ criminal justice reform GIRDUSKY ░░░░░░░░ SELLERS But George Floyd ░░░░░░░░ t cause 15 000 ░░░░░░░░ And here before you ░░░░░░░░ in I mean we ░░░░░░░░ know that we are ░░░░░░░░ about things that happened ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump was president ░░░░░░░░ Right PHILLIP He was ░░░░░░░░ president So how is ░░░░░░░░ not responsible for that ░░░░░░░░ The president doesn t ░░░░░░░░ local police department PHILLIP ░░░░░░░░ But you re trying ░░░░░░░░ blame crime on Joe ░░░░░░░░ GIRDUSKY No PHILLIP You ░░░░░░░░ t blame okay Republicans ░░░░░░░░ blamed crime on Joe ░░░░░░░░ but you cannot but ░░░░░░░░ re saying that people ░░░░░░░░ died when Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ president that s not ░░░░░░░░ fault I don t ░░░░░░░░ with either blame being ░░░░░░░░ to either president I ░░░░░░░░ presidents don t have ░░░░░░░░ magic wand and they ░░░░░░░░ t control crime from ░░░░░░░░ White House GIRDUSKY Right ░░░░░░░░ But if you re ░░░░░░░░ to say that Joe ░░░░░░░░ and Kamala Harris are ░░░░░░░░ for a rise in ░░░░░░░░ GIRDUSKY I didn t ░░░░░░░░ that though PHILLIP don ░░░░░░░░ you have to be ░░░░░░░░ Allison All I will ░░░░░░░░ is like we re ░░░░░░░░ about what the future ░░░░░░░░ for black Americans And ░░░░░░░░ I will say is ░░░░░░░░ Kamala Harris supports the ░░░░░░░░ Floyd Justice and Policing ░░░░░░░░ which again I have ░░░░░░░░ idea what you re ░░░░░░░░ about in terms of ░░░░░░░░ I don t I ░░░░░░░░ read it and then ░░░░░░░░ will fact check the ░░░░░░░░ that actually wrote that ░░░░░░░░ but that s what ░░░░░░░░ re talking about for ░░░░░░░░ plan for black America ░░░░░░░░ how we make public ░░░░░░░░ something so that everyone ░░░░░░░░ white brown can live ░░░░░░░░ safe communities That s ░░░░░░░░ what Donald Trump wants ░░░░░░░░ Trump again doesn t ░░░░░░░░ a better border because ░░░░░░░░ he could have had ░░░░░░░░ better border under this ░░░░░░░░ by supporting a bill ░░░░░░░░ he didn t want ░░░░░░░░ do it He did ░░░░░░░░ We do have to ░░░░░░░░ there There s actually ░░░░░░░░ lot more to talk ░░░░░░░░ We ll continue this ░░░░░░░░ and many others.”