CNN’s Elie Honig Gets Heated Over Panelist’s Defense of Jack Smith: ‘Hold on — My Turn Now!’

COLLINS Can I ask ░░░░░░░░ about the other thing ░░░░░░░░ judge did today which ░░░░░░░░ move the deadline for ░░░░░░░░ Trump s team has ░░░░░░░░ respond to to what ░░░░░░░░ went through last night ░░░░░░░░ this evidence that we ░░░░░░░░ never seen before some ░░░░░░░░ it in the election ░░░░░░░░ case against Trump saying ░░░░░░░░ can still go to ░░░░░░░░ despite what the Supreme ░░░░░░░░ argued It s November ░░░░░░░░ two days after the ░░░░░░░░ Would they want to ░░░░░░░░ rebut that before the ░░░░░░░░ happened HONIG Yes it ░░░░░░░░ a good question You ░░░░░░░░ think Trump would want ░░░░░░░░ put in his Hey ░░░░░░░░ s my response to ░░░░░░░░ thing you all just ░░░░░░░░ It s not going ░░░░░░░░ trial obviously for a ░░░░░░░░ time because it s ░░░░░░░░ to go back to ░░░░░░░░ Supreme Court But this ░░░░░░░░ what s unusual about ░░░░░░░░ way this whole thing ░░░░░░░░ played out The brief ░░░░░░░░ saw last night Procedurally ░░░░░░░░ s all backwards The ░░░░░░░░ it works you ve ░░░░░░░░ in the prosecutor s ░░░░░░░░ you get your indictment ░░░░░░░░ a prosecutor then the ░░░░░░░░ says Here s the ░░░░░░░░ I m going to ░░░░░░░░ to try to dismiss ░░░░░░░░ Smith here said I ░░░░░░░░ to go first and ░░░░░░░░ want to speed it ░░░░░░░░ And Judge Chutkan agreed ░░░░░░░░ him And that s ░░░░░░░░ we ve now seen ░░░░░░░░ document 30 some days ░░░░░░░░ the election They really ░░░░░░░░ ordinary procedure on its ░░░░░░░░ here to get it ░░░░░░░░ COLLINS Well and that ░░░░░░░░ why Trump is quoting ░░░░░░░░ on Truth Social today ░░░░░░░░ Yeah COLLINS You titled ░░░░░░░░ Jack Smith s October ░░░░░░░░ Shot HONIG Yeah I ░░░░░░░░ by that Look Jack ░░░░░░░░ took the established normal ░░░░░░░░ of any case and ░░░░░░░░ said I want to ░░░░░░░░ first Judge Chutkan said ░░░░░░░░ is an unusual request ░░░░░░░░ then let him do ░░░░░░░░ There s no reason ░░░░░░░░ speed it up There ░░░░░░░░ no reason to flip ░░░░░░░░ unless you as Jack ░░░░░░░░ believe Well the American ░░░░░░░░ needs to see this ░░░░░░░░ the election That s ░░░░░░░░ your job as a ░░░░░░░░ and I argue in ░░░░░░░░ piece it violates long ░░░░░░░░ DoJ policy to do ░░░░░░░░ with an election in ░░░░░░░░ COLLINS Yes But it ░░░░░░░░ out there And it ░░░░░░░░ really interesting We read ░░░░░░░░ it all here last ░░░░░░░░ It s fascinating And ░░░░░░░░ s one part we ░░░░░░░░ t get to last ░░░░░░░░ Tem And since you ░░░░░░░░ on the January 6 ░░░░░░░░ Committee helping them with ░░░░░░░░ very exhaustive investigation I ░░░░░░░░ one if you knew ░░░░░░░░ this and what you ░░░░░░░░ of it which is ░░░░░░░░ detailing about how Trump ░░░░░░░░ were trying to cause ░░░░░░░░ during the election And ░░░░░░░░ has to do with ░░░░░░░░ unidentified Trump campaign workers ░░░░░░░░ Detroit It s on ░░░░░░░░ night everything is getting ░░░░░░░░ And when a colleague ░░░░░░░░ an unidentified person We ░░░░░░░░ a batch of votes ░░░░░░░░ in Biden s favor ░░░░░░░░ right that unnamed person ░░░░░░░░ Find a reason it ░░░░░░░░ t Give me options ░░░░░░░░ file litigation When the ░░░░░░░░ suggested that there was ░░░░░░░░ to be unrest at ░░░░░░░░ polling place this person ░░░░░░░░ Make them riot Do ░░░░░░░░ Now we don t ░░░░░░░░ who that was but ░░░░░░░░ were clearly trying to ░░░░░░░░ some kind of moment ░░░░░░░░ it looked chaotic It ░░░░░░░░ like these we didn ░░░░░░░░ know who these votes ░░░░░░░░ for if they were ░░░░░░░░ when they were and ░░░░░░░░ just wanted there to ░░░░░░░░ a scene that they ░░░░░░░░ use to their advantage ░░░░░░░░ WILLIAMS So that was ░░░░░░░░ to me That s ░░░░░░░░ that I was not ░░░░░░░░ of And I think ░░░░░░░░ is damning but I ░░░░░░░░ it s consistent with ░░░░░░░░ we ve seen with ░░░░░░░░ the former president and ░░░░░░░░ allies which is that ░░░░░░░░ knew that their actions ░░░░░░░░ likely to cause violence ░░░░░░░░ they wanted to cause ░░░░░░░░ I think it s ░░░░░░░░ consistent And I must ░░░░░░░░ I could Kaitlan I ░░░░░░░░ to go back to ░░░░░░░░ Elie said on the ░░░░░░░░ Smith which I must ░░░░░░░░ disagree with the contents ░░░░░░░░ Elie s article I ░░░░░░░░ t think what Jack ░░░░░░░░ here has done is ░░░░░░░░ The DoJ rule reference ░░░░░░░░ taking actions within 60 ░░░░░░░░ is informal law It ░░░░░░░░ informal rule HONIG That ░░░░░░░░ not the right rule ░░░░░░░░ s not the right ░░░░░░░░ You keep no AGANGA ░░░░░░░░ And hold on But ░░░░░░░░ could if I could ░░░░░░░░ You re talking about ░░░░░░░░ rule that I m ░░░░░░░░ talking about AGANGA WILLIAMS ░░░░░░░░ I could I think ░░░░░░░░ I found problematic in ░░░░░░░░ article it suggests that ░░░░░░░░ Smith is purposely trying ░░░░░░░░ impact the election It ░░░░░░░░ that Jack Smith going ░░░░░░░░ is so abnormal because ░░░░░░░░ s putting some kind ░░░░░░░░ mens rea which is ░░░░░░░░ of mind in Jack ░░░░░░░░ s The Supreme Court ░░░░░░░░ Jack Smith to go ░░░░░░░░ and do exactly what ░░░░░░░░ s doing Jack Smith ░░░░░░░░ that brief under seal ░░░░░░░░ Chutkan chose to unseal ░░░░░░░░ not Jack Smith And ░░░░░░░░ do take issue with ░░░░░░░░ framing that this case ░░░░░░░░ been delayed or is ░░░░░░░░ forward at this time ░░░░░░░░ of Jack Smith It ░░░░░░░░ delayed because the Supreme ░░░░░░░░ took so long to ░░░░░░░░ this action It was ░░░░░░░░ because the former president ░░░░░░░░ sought at every angle ░░░░░░░░ stop this from going ░░░░░░░░ So I do think ░░░░░░░░ personally for me I ░░░░░░░░ what Jack Smith has ░░░░░░░░ so far is prosecute ░░░░░░░░ case honorably quickly and ░░░░░░░░ And the public has ░░░░░░░░ right There is a ░░░░░░░░ interest in an open ░░░░░░░░ which means seeing this ░░░░░░░░ which means moving quickly ░░░░░░░░ yes moving quickly before ░░░░░░░░ election That s what ░░░░░░░░ happen The people should ░░░░░░░░ what happened and get ░░░░░░░░ evidence that a grand ░░░░░░░░ as beyond probable cause ░░░░░░░░ that the former president ░░░░░░░░ committed this crime So ░░░░░░░░ people should get to ░░░░░░░░ as quickly as possible ░░░░░░░░ should not be stopped ░░░░░░░░ an election happens to ░░░░░░░░ happening He s a ░░░░░░░░ first candidate second HONIG ░░░░░░░░ many times did you ░░░░░░░░ file your motion first ░░░░░░░░ there was a motion ░░░░░░░░ dismiss as a prosecutor ░░░░░░░░ WILLIAMS How many times ░░░░░░░░ I how many HONIG ░░░░░░░░ Ever AGANGA WILLIAMS How ░░░░░░░░ times have I ever ░░░░░░░░ a former president for ░░░░░░░░ crimes HONIG But you ░░░░░░░░ t AGANGA WILLIAMS This ░░░░░░░░ a unique circumstance The ░░░░░░░░ Court lead HONIG You ░░░░░░░░ t just say the ░░░░░░░░ are thrown out because ░░░░░░░░ s really bad AGANGA ░░░░░░░░ No What I m ░░░░░░░░ That s the principles ░░░░░░░░ WILLIAMS No that s ░░░░░░░░ what I m saying ░░░░░░░░ I m saying is ░░░░░░░░ a conservative Supreme Court ░░░░░░░░ Jack Smith Take this ░░░░░░░░ to Judge Chutkan and ░░░░░░░░ exactly what he s ░░░░░░░░ now HONIG No they ░░░░░░░░ not AGANGA WILLIAMS They ░░░░░░░░ HONIG They did not ░░░░░░░░ You go first You ░░░░░░░░ it The way motions ░░░░░░░░ you know this the ░░░░░░░░ makes the motion first ░░░░░░░░ get to say Here ░░░░░░░░ the basis It got ░░░░░░░░ on its head And ░░░░░░░░ me talk about the ░░░░░░░░ issue How long did ░░░░░░░░ take DpJ to charge ░░░░░░░░ case AGANGA WILLIAMS You ░░░░░░░░ talking HONIG How long ░░░░░░░░ it take DoJ to ░░░░░░░░ this case AGANGA WILLIAMS ░░░░░░░░ HONIG Two hold on ░░░░░░░░ turn now AGANGA WILLIAMS ░░░░░░░░ said HONIG My turn ░░░░░░░░ AGANGA WILLIAMS Go ahead ░░░░░░░░ Two and a half ░░░░░░░░ AGANGA WILLIAMS Yes HONIG ░░░░░░░░ re saying Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ because he as a ░░░░░░░░ defendant raises a constitutional ░░░░░░░░ which goes to the ░░░░░░░░ Court and he wins ░░░░░░░░ s not delay That ░░░░░░░░ a criminal defendant vindicating ░░░░░░░░ constitutional rights The delay ░░░░░░░░ is on DoJ They ░░░░░░░░ t leave Jack Smith ░░░░░░░░ runway He has done ░░░░░░░░ but frantically expedite expedite ░░░░░░░░ at every step of ░░░░░░░░ case You can t ░░░░░░░░ me it has nothing ░░░░░░░░ do with trying to ░░░░░░░░ it in before the ░░░░░░░░ And the rule the ░░░░░░░░ rule here it s ░░░░░░░░ 9 8 500 says ░░░░░░░░ a prosecutor you cannot ░░░░░░░░ any action People say ░░░░░░░░ it only means charging ░░░░░░░░ No The rule says ░░░░░░░░ action with an eye ░░░░░░░░ the election Sally Yates ░░░░░░░░ it was inappropriate to ░░░░░░░░ just this a few ░░░░░░░░ ago If you had ░░░░░░░░ problem with what James ░░░░░░░░ did in 2016 you ░░░░░░░░ to have a problem ░░░░░░░░ this You can t ░░░░░░░░ that needle AGANGA WILLIAMS ░░░░░░░░ s the big distinction ░░░░░░░░ You can t you ░░░░░░░░ easily What James Comey ░░░░░░░░ is 11 days before ░░░░░░░░ election he announced the ░░░░░░░░ of an investigation What ░░░░░░░░ re talking about here ░░░░░░░░ a case that is ░░░░░░░░ prosecuted is motion practice ░░░░░░░░ That is not the ░░░░░░░░ thing at all It ░░░░░░░░ completely different And I ░░░░░░░░ it s inappropriate to ░░░░░░░░ that Jack Smith has ░░░░░░░░ doing something frantically I ░░░░░░░░ what he s been ░░░░░░░░ is prosecuting the case ░░░░░░░░ he should be COLLINS ░░░░░░░░ conversation Elie Honig Temidayo ░░░░░░░░ Williams. Thank you, both.”