Tucker Carlson and Rob Reiner Have a Passive-Aggressive Contest in Tense Russia Debate

RUSH TRANSCRIPT So we ░░░░░░░░ at war How would ░░░░░░░░ respond if President Trump ░░░░░░░░ you seriously and sent ░░░░░░░░ b 52s to St ░░░░░░░░ or blockaded the gulf ░░░░░░░░ Finland Would you support ░░░░░░░░ When we say we ░░░░░░░░ at war we are ░░░░░░░░ about a cyber war ░░░░░░░░ It doesn t make ░░░░░░░░ clear It just says ░░░░░░░░ Freeman who everyone trusts ░░░░░░░░ voice immediately trust we ░░░░░░░░ at war If you ░░░░░░░░ t really believe we ░░░░░░░░ at war where are ░░░░░░░░ saying it then If ░░░░░░░░ watch the entire video ░░░░░░░░ talks about cyber warfare ░░░░░░░░ talks about how he ░░░░░░░░ able to use the ░░░░░░░░ and cyber tools to ░░░░░░░░ the democracy which is ░░░░░░░░ they did Tucker But ░░░░░░░░ t you say somewhere ░░░░░░░░ there we are not ░░░░░░░░ at war Just kind ░░░░░░░░ taking creative license it ░░░░░░░░ not really war We ░░░░░░░░ t respond as if ░░░░░░░░ were in a war ░░░░░░░░ not say that so ░░░░░░░░ don t confuse people ░░░░░░░░ say if you watch ░░░░░░░░ whole video Tucker I ░░░░░░░░ You wouldn t be ░░░░░░░░ about it The thing ░░░░░░░░ I have always felt ░░░░░░░░ that you know people ░░░░░░░░ t really understand the ░░░░░░░░ for cyber warfare beyond ░░░░░░░░ obvious stuff of hacking ░░░░░░░░ people s computers or ░░░░░░░░ the Internet you know ░░░░░░░░ we now find out ░░░░░░░░ they were using Facebook ░░░░░░░░ push out certain kinds ░░░░░░░░ propaganda Propaganda has been ░░░░░░░░ forever you know so ░░░░░░░░ have had plenty of ░░░░░░░░ Beyonce propaganda propaganda there ░░░░░░░░ other aspects to cyber ░░░░░░░░ that have been used ░░░░░░░░ Russians have used it ░░░░░░░░ we have to make ░░░░░░░░ aware of the capacity ░░░░░░░░ this cyber warfare beyond ░░░░░░░░ distrust and confusion and ░░░░░░░░ society Tucker A couple ░░░░░░░░ things First you have ░░░░░░░░ yourself with people like ░░░░░░░░ boot and David Frum ░░░░░░░░ have long advocated for ░░░░░░░░ wars hot wars Both ░░░░░░░░ them are big advocates ░░░░░░░░ the war in Iraq ░░░░░░░░ on the idea that ░░░░░░░░ had weapons of mass ░░░░░░░░ I think he made ░░░░░░░░ movie on that But ░░░░░░░░ you a little concerned ░░░░░░░░ have wound up linked ░░░░░░░░ people who are advocating ░░░░░░░░ have for decades a ░░░░░░░░ of actual wars where ░░░░░░░░ dive Are you comfortable ░░░░░░░░ that We have people ░░░░░░░░ all sides We have ░░░░░░░░ Clapper the director of ░░░░░░░░ intelligence many supporters Norman ░░░░░░░░ We have liberals and ░░░░░░░░ and doves as you ░░░░░░░░ on both sides We ░░░░░░░░ not advocating going to ░░░░░░░░ or going into a ░░░░░░░░ war with Russia but ░░░░░░░░ are already in a ░░░░░░░░ war with them them ░░░░░░░░ people want to turn ░░░░░░░░ heads away from that ░░░░░░░░ is at their own ░░░░░░░░ The point I d ░░░░░░░░ to make and this ░░░░░░░░ important for people to ░░░░░░░░ because this really doesn ░░░░░░░░ have anything to do ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump Trust me ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump whatever happens ░░░░░░░░ him is going to ░░░░░░░░ to him There are ░░░░░░░░ investigations Mueller is going ░░░░░░░░ find what he finds ░░░░░░░░ house and Senate have ░░░░░░░░ own investigations They ll ░░░░░░░░ whatever they find But ░░░░░░░░ that we have been ░░░░░░░░ in a certain way ░░░░░░░░ the thing that has ░░░░░░░░ so upsetting to me ░░░░░░░░ I don t know ░░░░░░░░ old you are Tucker ░░░░░░░░ I can remember when ░░░░░░░░ had to hide under ░░░░░░░░ desk during the Cold ░░░░░░░░ in the 50s because ░░░░░░░░ were worried that we ░░░░░░░░ going to get attacked ░░░░░░░░ a nuclear bomb And ░░░░░░░░ the country has been ░░░░░░░░ in one way or ░░░░░░░░ whether it was Pearl ░░░░░░░░ or 9 11 we ░░░░░░░░ always come together as ░░░░░░░░ country to defend ourselves ░░░░░░░░ enemies foreign enemies you ░░░░░░░░ And this is the ░░░░░░░░ time because I think ░░░░░░░░ are divided as a ░░░░░░░░ and we know we ░░░░░░░░ want to bring us ░░░░░░░░ Tucker Here s part ░░░░░░░░ the reason I agree ░░░░░░░░ you We are very ░░░░░░░░ and maybe this is ░░░░░░░░ of the reasons A ░░░░░░░░ of this is deeply ░░░░░░░░ Anyone who looks at ░░░░░░░░ warfare will tell you ░░░░░░░░ honest person will say ░░░░░░░░ Chinese military is the ░░░░░░░░ culprit in the you ░░░░░░░░ United States Hacked into ░░░░░░░░ house not that long ░░░░░░░░ and didn t know ░░░░░░░░ almost every federal agency ░░░░░░░░ said anything You guys ░░░░░░░░ Hollywood sell your movies ░░░░░░░░ China You bowed to ░░░░░░░░ imperatives of their propaganda ░░░░░░░░ censorship You change your ░░░░░░░░ to suit them Yet ░░░░░░░░ one says we are ░░░░░░░░ war with China So ░░░░░░░░ are sucking up to ░░░░░░░░ regime that has actually ░░░░░░░░ in installing industrial and ░░░░░░░░ secrets that have hurt ░░░░░░░░ country You say nothing ░░░░░░░░ Hillary Clinton loses and ░░░░░░░░ all of a sudden ░░░░░░░░ are at war with ░░░░░░░░ Can you see why ░░░░░░░░ of us are saying ░░░░░░░░ a second Rob Reiner ░░░░░░░░ are at war with ░░░░░░░░ Why are you selling ░░░░░░░░ movies over there I ░░░░░░░░ not giving China a ░░░░░░░░ pass here Tucker Of ░░░░░░░░ you are You guys ░░░░░░░░ Hollywood sellier movies and ░░░░░░░░ allow their censorship office ░░░░░░░░ change your movies in ░░░░░░░░ to make money I ░░░░░░░░ t personally do that ░░░░░░░░ Everybody who sells a ░░░░░░░░ in China does that ░░░░░░░░ know that Kind of ░░░░░░░░ s ing a little ░░░░░░░░ s real Here is ░░░░░░░░ difference Tucker The Chinese ░░░░░░░░ done some stuff we ░░░░░░░░ done stuff we were ░░░░░░░░ Tucker But we re ░░░░░░░░ to judge Russia because ░░░░░░░░ It doesn t make ░░░░░░░░ You re not letting ░░░░░░░░ make a point here ░░░░░░░░ know about stuxnet we ░░░░░░░░ the capacity for cyber ░░░░░░░░ It s not just ░░░░░░░░ into computers and stealing ░░░░░░░░ It s about using ░░░░░░░░ information and weapon icing ░░░░░░░░ in some way Now ░░░░░░░░ can weapon eyes it ░░░░░░░░ propaganda which it has ░░░░░░░░ done in this way ░░░░░░░░ it can be actually ░░░░░░░░ in a physical way ░░░░░░░░ disrupt power plants water ░░░░░░░░ and so on The ░░░░░░░░ have done that in ░░░░░░░░ Ukraine Like I say ░░░░░░░░ we did that in ░░░░░░░░ This is not a ░░░░░░░░ The point is we ░░░░░░░░ at this point where ░░░░░░░░ have two understand the ░░░░░░░░ so we can put ░░░░░░░░ place the kind of ░░░░░░░░ we need to defend ░░░░░░░░ Tucker I agree with ░░░░░░░░ you just said I ░░░░░░░░ that you agreed with ░░░░░░░░ Tucker You didn t ░░░░░░░░ my question What was ░░░░░░░░ question Tucker The question ░░░░░░░░ if China is a ░░░░░░░░ violator in the United ░░░░░░░░ than Russia and I ░░░░░░░░ everyone agrees that it ░░░░░░░░ why are they not ░░░░░░░░ your movie China has ░░░░░░░░ insinuated themselves directly into ░░░░░░░░ democratic process into our ░░░░░░░░ Tucker Are you serious ░░░░░░░░ course they have They ░░░░░░░░ information directly from the ░░░░░░░░ S Government from our ░░░░░░░░ figures from the Pentagon ░░░░░░░░ CIA the White House ░░░░░░░░ they re not in ░░░░░░░░ political system I don ░░░░░░░░ understand I didn t ░░░░░░░░ do not in the ░░░░░░░░ system Of course they ░░░░░░░░ What I m saying ░░░░░░░░ didn t utilize that ░░░░░░░░ to try to affect ░░░░░░░░ election in some way ░░░░░░░░ You can see by ░░░░░░░░ some of us are ░░░░░░░░ a little skeptical Maybe ░░░░░░░░ re not selling as ░░░░░░░░ movies in Russia as ░░░░░░░░ are in China Anyway ░░░░░░░░ luck with David Frum ░░░░░░░░ max boot Nice to ░░░░░░░░ you Good to see ░░░░░░░░