CNN Invites ProPublica on to Blame Ga. Pro-Life Law for Two Women Killed from Botched Abortions

BOLDUAN Kamala Harris leaning ░░░░░░░░ on the fight over ░░░░░░░░ rights this week while ░░░░░░░░ the campaign trail and ░░░░░░░░ some original reporting coming ░░░░░░░░ ProPublica that at least ░░░░░░░░ women in Georgia died ░░░░░░░░ two weeks after the ░░░░░░░░ s six week abortion ░░░░░░░░ went into effect in ░░░░░░░░ The reporting is talking ░░░░░░░░ these women Amber Thurman ░░░░░░░░ Miller denied life saving ░░░░░░░░ that they needed and ░░░░░░░░ ended in tragedy As ░░░░░░░░ reports this Thurman s ░░░░░░░░ marks the first time ░░░░░░░░ s case marks the ░░░░░░░░ time that let me ░░░░░░░░ sure I get this ░░░░░░░░ right Thurman s case ░░░░░░░░ the first time an ░░░░░░░░ related death officially deemed ░░░░░░░░ is coming to public ░░░░░░░░ Kamala Harris tweeting about ░░░░░░░░ deaths and blaming Donald ░░░░░░░░ saying in part quote ░░░░░░░░ young mother from Georgia ░░░░░░░░ be alive today raising ░░░░░░░░ son and pursuing her ░░░░░░░░ of attending nursing school ░░░░░░░░ is exactly what we ░░░░░░░░ says feared when Roe ░░░░░░░░ Wade was struck down ░░░░░░░░ more than 20 states ░░░░░░░░ abortion bans prevent doctors ░░░░░░░░ providing basic medical care ░░░░░░░░ s talk about this ░░░░░░░░ that s driving the ░░░░░░░░ right now Ziva Branstetter ░░░░░░░░ joining us She s ░░░░░░░░ senior editor for ProPublica ░░░░░░░░ reports are gut wrenching ░░░░░░░░ reporting the detail the ░░░░░░░░ deeply sourced in research ░░░░░░░░ One of the things ░░░░░░░░ hits you when you ░░░░░░░░ through this is the ░░░░░░░░ pain that these women ░░░░░░░░ in their final days ░░░░░░░░ us about Amber Thurman ░░░░░░░░ Candi Miller and how ░░░░░░░░ team came upon their ░░░░░░░░ BRANSTETTER Thank you so ░░░░░░░░ for having us talk ░░░░░░░░ this important reporting by ░░░░░░░░ Surana who s the ░░░░░░░░ on this project We ░░░░░░░░ been looking at ProPublica ░░░░░░░░ the harm that is ░░░░░░░░ by extreme abortion bans ░░░░░░░░ to ensure we re ░░░░░░░░ our jobs And we ░░░░░░░░ two cases through this ░░░░░░░░ of women whose deaths ░░░░░░░░ ruled preventable by the ░░░░░░░░ s maternal mortality board ░░░░░░░░ Both of these deaths ░░░░░░░░ in the months after ░░░░░░░░ v Wade was struck ░░░░░░░░ and Georgia s six ░░░░░░░░ abortion ban passed Both ░░░░░░░░ suffered a very rare ░░░░░░░░ from abortion medication that ░░░░░░░░ easily treatable One woman ░░░░░░░░ for 20 hours this ░░░░░░░░ Amber Thurman for treatment ░░░░░░░░ a hospital there in ░░░░░░░░ Doctors did not operate ░░░░░░░░ don t know what ░░░░░░░░ going through their minds ░░░░░░░░ the second case Candi ░░░░░░░░ s family literally told ░░░░░░░░ coroner that she was ░░░░░░░░ because of the state ░░░░░░░░ abortion ban to seek ░░░░░░░░ The maternal mortality committee ░░░░░░░░ that that case was ░░░░░░░░ preventable and directly connected ░░░░░░░░ to the state s ░░░░░░░░ ban BOLDUAN I see ░░░░░░░░ the article that a ░░░░░░░░ for the Republican governor ░░░░░░░░ Kemp called the reporting ░░░░░░░░ as a fear mongering ░░░░░░░░ Talk to me about ░░░░░░░░ BRANSTETTER Well I just ░░░░░░░░ it s ironic They ░░░░░░░░ used that word fear ░░░░░░░░ two weeks before Amber ░░░░░░░░ died when advocates and ░░░░░░░░ went to court to ░░░░░░░░ the state s abortion ░░░░░░░░ and said women would ░░░░░░░░ women would die They ░░░░░░░░ that s fear mongering ░░░░░░░░ weeks later Amber Thurman ░░░░░░░░ I also think it ░░░░░░░░ ironic that this is ░░░░░░░░ state board that ruled ░░░░░░░░ deaths preventable BOLDUAN Right ░░░░░░░░ that answers to ultimately ░░░░░░░░ governor BOLDUAN That s ░░░░░░░░ right And that s ░░░░░░░░ some of the coming ░░░░░░░░ as you dug into ░░░░░░░░ And I want to ░░░░░░░░ one paragraph from your ░░░░░░░░ on Amber Thurman It ░░░░░░░░ like an additional pain ░░░░░░░░ is brought upon this ░░░░░░░░ even beyond her death ░░░░░░░░ is this For years ░░░░░░░░ Thurman s family had ░░░░░░░░ a death certificate that ░░░░░░░░ she died of septic ░░░░░░░░ and retained products of ░░░░░░░░ a rare description that ░░░░░░░░ previously only appeared once ░░░░░░░░ Georgia death records over ░░░░░░░░ last 15 years ProPublica ░░░░░░░░ The family learned Thurman ░░░░░░░░ case had been reviewed ░░░░░░░░ deemed preventable from ProPublica ░░░░░░░░ reporting Her family no ░░░░░░░░ BRANSTETTER Correct BOLDUAN she ░░░░░░░░ a young son now ░░░░░░░░ has lost his mother ░░░░░░░░ would have turned as ░░░░░░░░ guys point out 31 ░░░░░░░░ old just recently That ░░░░░░░░ gutting BRANSTETTER Correct It ░░░░░░░░ It s very difficult ░░░░░░░░ know to grapple with ░░░░░░░░ faces of the harm ░░░░░░░░ These are two women ░░░░░░░░ were mothers Candi Miller ░░░░░░░░ three children She died ░░░░░░░░ bed with her 3 ░░░░░░░░ old with her Amber ░░░░░░░░ has a had a ░░░░░░░░ year old son that ░░░░░░░░ family members are raising ░░░░░░░░ maternal mortality rate in ░░░░░░░░ is among the highest ░░░░░░░░ the nation three times ░░░░░░░░ for women of color ░░░░░░░░ How many other stories ░░░░░░░░ this do you think ░░░░░░░░ out there BRANSTETTER We ░░░░░░░░ t really know All ░░░░░░░░ have to go by ░░░░░░░░ the days before Roe ░░░░░░░░ were hundreds of deaths ░░░░░░░░ what was then called ░░░░░░░░ abortion ProPublica is very ░░░░░░░░ in hearing from family ░░░░░░░░ of loved ones who ░░░░░░░░ died while pregnant maybe ░░░░░░░░ to access care They ░░░░░░░░ have had chronic conditions ░░░░░░░░ Candi Miller who had ░░░░░░░░ We re very interested ░░░░░░░░ looking at these cases ░░░░░░░░ what we can to ░░░░░░░░ the real causes We ░░░░░░░░ there needs to be ░░░░░░░░ transparency among state maternal ░░░░░░░░ boards which operate two ░░░░░░░░ behind So who knows ░░░░░░░░ many cases are out ░░░░░░░░ We would like to ░░░░░░░░ BOLDUAN Yeah No matter ░░░░░░░░ decision the political decisions ░░░░░░░░ at those at the ░░░░░░░░ level the transparency of ░░░░░░░░ is happening within the ░░░░░░░░ is important for everyone ░░░░░░░░ they re making decisions ░░░░░░░░ this Thank you so ░░░░░░░░ Ziva and your team ░░░░░░░░ great reporting It is ░░░░░░░░ for everyone to read ░░░░░░░░ of these articles and ░░░░░░░░ m sure there will ░░░░░░░░ more to come to ░░░░░░░░ a feel of this ░░░░░░░░ you very much BRANSTETTER ░░░░░░░░ you BOLDUAN A new ░░░░░░░░ CNN NEWS CENTRAL starts ░░░░░░░░