Bernie Sanders on Kamala Harris’ Flip-Flops: She’s Being ‘Pragmatic’ and Trying to Win the Election

WELKER You have described ░░░░░░░░ President Kamala Harris as ░░░░░░░░ progressive She has previously ░░░░░░░░ Medicare for All now ░░░░░░░░ does not She s ░░░░░░░░ supported a ban on ░░░░░░░░ now she does not ░░░░░░░░ Senator are ideas that ░░░░░░░░ have campaigned on Do ░░░░░░░░ think that she is ░░░░░░░░ her progressive ideals Sanders ░░░░░░░░ I don t think ░░░░░░░░ s abandoning her ideals ░░░░░░░░ think she s trying ░░░░░░░░ be pragmatic and doing ░░░░░░░░ she thinks is right ░░░░░░░░ order to win the ░░░░░░░░ My own view is ░░░░░░░░ different I think that ░░░░░░░░ America today there are ░░░░░░░░ lot of people rural ░░░░░░░░ working class people who ░░░░░░░░ longer believe that the ░░░░░░░░ States Congress and government ░░░░░░░░ their interests too dominated ░░░░░░░░ big money interests So ░░░░░░░░ think that there is ░░░░░░░░ wrong personally when we ░░░░░░░░ the only major country ░░░░░░░░ earth not to guarantee ░░░░░░░░ care to all of ░░░░░░░░ people despite spending twice ░░░░░░░░ much per capita That ░░░░░░░░ why I support Medicare ░░░░░░░░ All She does not ░░░░░░░░ has another approach toward ░░░░░░░░ toward universal health care ░░░░░░░░ again I think on ░░░░░░░░ like expanding Medicare by ░░░░░░░░ Social Security and lifting ░░░░░░░░ cap on taxable income ░░░░░░░░ the rich put in ░░░░░░░░ we can raise Social ░░░░░░░░ benefits the need to ░░░░░░░░ the minimum wage from ░░░░░░░░ starvation 7 25 minimum ░░░░░░░░ to a living wage ░░░░░░░░ think if you campaign ░░░░░░░░ those issues raising taxes ░░░░░░░░ billionaires you know what ░░░░░░░░ s going to win ░░░░░░░░ I think she could ░░░░░░░░ big WELKER Well let ░░░░░░░░ just ask you then ░░░░░░░░ picture Do you still ░░░░░░░░ Vice President Kamala Harris ░░░░░░░░ be progressive Senator Sanders ░░░░░░░░ do Look she and ░░░░░░░░ she is not where ░░░░░░░░ am But I think ░░░░░░░░ example when she talks ░░░░░░░░ making the child tax ░░░░░░░░ permanent and you know ░░░░░░░░ did that in the ░░░░░░░░ Rescue Plan we lowered ░░░░░░░░ poverty by 40 Kristen ░░░░░░░░ should not have as ░░░░░░░░ richest country on earth ░░░░░░░░ of the highest rates ░░░░░░░░ childhood poverty in the ░░░░░░░░ When she talks about ░░░░░░░░ 3 million units of ░░░░░░░░ housing that s a ░░░░░░░░ deal because we have ░░░░░░░░ major housing crisis in ░░░░░░░░ You know when she ░░░░░░░░ about passing the PRO ░░░░░░░░ to make it easier ░░░░░░░░ workers to join unions ░░░░░░░░ s a big deal ░░░░░░░░ we have to expand ░░░░░░░░ union movement so that ░░░░░░░░ get decent wages So ░░░░░░░░ her views are not ░░░░░░░░ but I do consider ░░░░░░░░ progressive.”