KAMALA HARRIS

SCARBOROUGH We ll get ░░░░░░░░ you in a second ░░░░░░░░ since we mentioned The ░░░░░░░░ York Times I really ░░░░░░░░ we need to go ░░░░░░░░ Mara first And Mara ░░░░░░░░ m not asking you ░░░░░░░░ defend your paper but ░░░░░░░░ course we do always ░░░░░░░░ about the wall that ░░░░░░░░ sacrosanct between the editorial ░░░░░░░░ and the news page ░░░░░░░░ So let s practice ░░░░░░░░ wall SCARBOROUGH So we ░░░░░░░░ practice the wall And ░░░░░░░░ don t ask you ░░░░░░░░ I always hate when ░░░░░░░░ go We kind of ░░░░░░░░ podcast we do this ░░░░░░░░ do that you know ░░░░░░░░ they go Yeah sure ░░░░░░░░ ll do it And ░░░░░░░░ they go on to ░░░░░░░░ Boy you must take ░░░░░░░░ and so Laughter crosstalk ░░░░░░░░ got me here I ░░░░░░░░ like I m in ░░░░░░░░ company man but I ░░░░░░░░ not going to do ░░░░░░░░ right BRZEZINSKI No no ░░░░░░░░ SCARBOROUGH But I m ░░░░░░░░ asking you to talk ░░░░░░░░ The New York Times ░░░░░░░░ I m sure BRZEZINSKI ░░░░░░░░ s an overall problem ░░░░░░░░ s not SCARBOROUGH We ░░░░░░░░ think it s an ░░░░░░░░ problem with whether it ░░░░░░░░ TV news whether it ░░░░░░░░ the newspaper but a ░░░░░░░░ a moral equivalency between ░░░░░░░░ insanity of Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ speeches and basically the ░░░░░░░░ for the end of ░░░░░░░░ you know checks and ░░░░░░░░ in American democracy versus ░░░░░░░░ Harris BRZEZINSKI Yeah And ░░░░░░░░ laugh SCARBOROUGH And you ░░░░░░░░ take just about and ░░░░░░░░ laugh BRZEZINSKI Whatever SCARBOROUGH ░░░░░░░░ or if you talk ░░░░░░░░ the difference would like ░░░░░░░░ out How does anybody ░░░░░░░░ about flip flopping on ░░░░░░░░ without leading with Donald ░░░░░░░░ on abortion on immigration ░░░░░░░░ Yeah SCARBOROUGH on on ░░░░░░░░ the federal debt BRZEZINSKI ░░░░░░░░ in elections SCARBOROUGH Just ░░░░░░░░ name it He does ░░░░░░░░ GAY No I mean ░░░░░░░░ of all we have ░░░░░░░░ just state the obvious ░░░░░░░░ is you re absolutely ░░░░░░░░ I mean in this ░░░░░░░░ the choice is is ░░░░░░░░ We have said that ░░░░░░░░ at the editorial board ░░░░░░░░ and over And you ░░░░░░░░ democracy on the one ░░░░░░░░ and somebody who is ░░░░░░░░ to a policy that ░░░░░░░░ going to move America ░░░░░░░░ And then you have ░░░░░░░░ Trump who can t ░░░░░░░░ through a coherent speech ░░░░░░░░ that s obvious I ░░░░░░░░ the challenge not just ░░░░░░░░ journalists but really for ░░░░░░░░ country is that not ░░░░░░░░ is Donald Trump a ░░░░░░░░ but you know it ░░░░░░░░ the bar So I ░░░░░░░░ t think it s ░░░░░░░░ And I think it ░░░░░░░░ important as our role ░░░░░░░░ our role as journalists ░░░░░░░░ really push every candidate ░░░░░░░░ office And there are ░░░░░░░░ of things that we ░░░░░░░░ hear from the vice ░░░░░░░░ that we d love ░░░░░░░░ hear more about policy ░░░░░░░░ It d be great ░░░░░░░░ see her take more ░░░░░░░░ from the press Those ░░░░░░░░ are important It s ░░░░░░░░ the context is difficult ░░░░░░░░ because of the extremism ░░░░░░░░ the Republican Party because ░░░░░░░░ how extreme Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ it s it s ░░░░░░░░ to hold both candidates ░░░░░░░░ equally because one is ░░░░░░░░ to democracy and is ░░░░░░░░ as a normal candidate ░░░░░░░░ a normal American party ░░░░░░░░ the other is not ░░░░░░░░ so you know this ░░░░░░░░ really about the extremism ░░░░░░░░ the of the Republican ░░░░░░░░ And it s important ░░░░░░░░ hold all candidates accountable ░░░░░░░░ s just that when ░░░░░░░░ do that it does ░░░░░░░░ sound a little silly ░░░░░░░░ given the breadth of ░░░░░░░░ the vice president is ░░░░░░░░ the American people there ░░░░░░░░ no comparison with Donald ░░░░░░░░ BRZEZINSKI Right GAY So ░░░░░░░░ there s no question ░░░░░░░░ that But that doesn ░░░░░░░░ mean that you know ░░░░░░░░ vice president in a ░░░░░░░░ election by the way ░░░░░░░░ would see real competition ░░░░░░░░ competition is always good ░░░░░░░░ American democracy SCARBROOUGH Right ░░░░░░░░ Right GAY The problem ░░░░░░░░ that Republicans aren t ░░░░░░░░ Democratic competition And so ░░░░░░░░ know BRZEZINSKI Yeah GAY ░░░░░░░░ definitely puts the press ░░░░░░░░ an awkward position No ░░░░░░░░