RAY RICE/NFL

[clip starts NEGANDHI Some ░░░░░░░░ express support for Rice ░░░░░░░░ his jersey BESSLING I ░░░░░░░░ the jersey in support ░░░░░░░░ Ray Rice because I ░░░░░░░░ Ray rice and I ░░░░░░░░ sorry I don t ░░░░░░░░ in abuse but she ░░░░░░░░ him first and any ░░░░░░░░ who can hit a ░░░░░░░░ can be hit back ░░░░░░░░ To me a man ░░░░░░░░ not hit a woman ░░░░░░░░ Ray Rice should not ░░░░░░░░ judged by the NFL ░░░░░░░░ should be judged by ░░░░░░░░ courts The NFL should ░░░░░░░░ have taken his career ░░░░░░░░ from him LOWE I ░░░░░░░░ not selling my jerseys ░░░░░░░░ m not burning my ░░░░░░░░ I support the man ░░░░░░░░ I feel bad He ░░░░░░░░ a family and he ░░░░░░░░ a second chance We ░░░░░░░░ do There s a ░░░░░░░░ of people in this ░░░░░░░░ that have made mistakes ░░░░░░░░ re still on the ░░░░░░░░ Why isn t he ░░░░░░░░ m not saying I ░░░░░░░░ it I know there ░░░░░░░░ sponsors I know there ░░░░░░░░ money involved But you ░░░░░░░░ what At the end ░░░░░░░░ the day the man ░░░░░░░░ still a person and ░░░░░░░░ have torn him apart ░░░░░░░░ ve torn the city ░░░░░░░░ clip ends NEGANDHI Ravens ░░░░░░░░ win the game last ░░░░░░░░ over Steelers ESPNW columnist ░░░░░░░░ Fagan joins us this ░░░░░░░░ Kate what s your ░░░░░░░░ to Ravens fans supporting ░░░░░░░░ wearing the jersey and ░░░░░░░░ one woman justifying Rice ░░░░░░░░ actions FAGAN Well I ░░░░░░░░ I m not surprised ░░░░░░░░ it and I m ░░░░░░░░ not going to go ░░░░░░░░ the road of pitting ░░░░░░░░ against women It s ░░░░░░░░ that everybody who has ░░░░░░░░ opinion about Ray Rice ░░░░░░░░ to that opinion through ░░░░░░░░ own life experiences So ░░░░░░░░ s really not going ░░░░░░░░ move the conversation forward ░░░░░░░░ judge those opinions I ░░░░░░░░ what we need to ░░░░░░░░ is peel back and ░░░░░░░░ talk about the culture ░░░░░░░░ exists here within football ░░░░░░░░ how much this story ░░░░░░░░ really highlighting that If ░░░░░░░░ look at Paul George ░░░░░░░░ tweets yesterday that kind ░░░░░░░░ created this gray area ░░░░░░░░ whether domestic violence is ░░░░░░░░ or not it seems ░░░░░░░░ be a very black ░░░░░░░░ white issue when you ░░░░░░░░ about is violence against ░░░░░░░░ right or wrong I ░░░░░░░░ most people would say ░░░░░░░░ s wrong and yet ░░░░░░░░ this culture we ve ░░░░░░░░ this gray area where ░░░░░░░░ justify the behavior and ░░░░░░░░ refuse every time we ░░░░░░░░ that we refuse to ░░░░░░░░ look in the mirror ░░░░░░░░ figure out why this ░░░░░░░░ happening The numbers from ░░░░░░░░ World Health Organization right ░░░░░░░░ almost 40 percent of ░░░░░░░░ murdered in the world ░░░░░░░░ murdered by intimate partners ░░░░░░░░ yes people are wearing ░░░░░░░░ Rice jerseys and justifying ░░░░░░░░ behavior and really to ░░░░░░░░ that highlights a question ░░░░░░░░ need to ask which ░░░░░░░░ why is this issue ░░░░░░░░ as black and white ░░░░░░░░ it should be NEGANDHI ░░░░░░░░ you mentioned this So ░░░░░░░░ would you describe or ░░░░░░░░ would you change this ░░░░░░░░ if it s not ░░░░░░░░ yes or no black ░░░░░░░░ white issue and there ░░░░░░░░ that gray area FAGAN ░░░░░░░░ I think right now ░░░░░░░░ re talking so much ░░░░░░░░ firing Goodell or punishments ░░░░░░░░ it be a three ░░░░░░░░ a two game a ░░░░░░░░ game a full year ░░░░░░░░ But I think that ░░░░░░░░ a little reactive and ░░░░░░░░ pro active Domestic violence ░░░░░░░░ something that happens in ░░░░░░░░ in the moment It ░░░░░░░░ very unlikely that perpetrators ░░░░░░░░ domestic violence are worried ░░░░░░░░ whether it will be ░░░░░░░░ two a six a ░░░░░░░░ game suspension This is ░░░░░░░░ that is happening at ░░░░░░░░ grassroots level that is ░░░░░░░░ through years of our ░░░░░░░░ like raising men to ░░░░░░░░ to not be like ░░░░░░░░ and using language like ░░░░░░░░ and you throw like ░░░░░░░░ girl that demean women ░░░░░░░░ are all contributing factors ░░░░░░░░ I think if we ░░░░░░░░ to hold the NFL ░░░░░░░░ feet to the fire ░░░░░░░░ this issue we shouldn ░░░░░░░░ be looking at the ░░░░░░░░ of game suspensions because ░░░░░░░░ don t really think ░░░░░░░░ s going to change ░░░░░░░░ problem I think holding ░░░░░░░░ s feet to the ░░░░░░░░ should mean getting them ░░░░░░░░ throw the kitchen sink ░░░░░░░░ domestic violence to invest ░░░░░░░░ of dollars in grassroots ░░░░░░░░ in going into middle ░░░░░░░░ and high schools and ░░░░░░░░ and talking to young ░░░░░░░░ about dealing with anger ░░░░░░░░ how they treat women ░░░░░░░░ think that s where ░░░░░░░░ re going to see ░░░░░░░░ I think that right ░░░░░░░░ all of this reactive ░░░░░░░░ is not going to ░░░░░░░░ it as much as ░░░░░░░░ in and going into ░░░░░░░░ school systems and the ░░░░░░░░ spaces and really reprogramming ░░░░░░░░ we raise men NEGANDHI ░░░░░░░░ on the NFL level ░░░░░░░░ issue of domestic violence ░░░░░░░░ t just about Ray ░░░░░░░░ Panther s defensive end ░░░░░░░░ Hardy was convicted on ░░░░░░░░ domestic violence charges this ░░░░░░░░ He has appealed a ░░░░░░░░ His jury trial is ░░░░░░░░ on November 17 Like ░░░░░░░░ now 49ers defensive lineman ░░░░░░░░ McDonald remains active while ░░░░░░░░ s been investigated for ░░░░░░░░ allegations McDonald arrested on ░░░░░░░░ 31 in suspicion of ░░░░░░░░ felony of domestic violence ░░░░░░░░ the Niners did suspend ░░░░░░░░ broadcaster Fred Robinson for ░░░░░░░░ games after he made ░░░░░░░░ about Janay Rice earlier ░░░░░░░░ week Robinson has since ░░░░░░░░ The NFL I understand ░░░░░░░░ a new punishment policy ░░░░░░░░ but Kate what should ░░░░░░░░ what should their responsibilities ░░░░░░░░ in these situations FAGAN ░░░░░░░░ of all the NFL ░░░░░░░░ stance on violence against ░░░░░░░░ and domestic violence has ░░░░░░░░ been extraordinarily weak That ░░░░░░░░ nothing new I think ░░░░░░░░ now we re looking ░░░░░░░░ over the cases and ░░░░░░░░ cases that existed before ░░░░░░░░ Ray Rice one and ░░░░░░░░ like Wait a second ░░░░░░░░ s not right I ░░░░░░░░ love teams to be ░░░░░░░░ strict as they could ░░░░░░░░ be on this issue ░░░░░░░░ to say zero tolerance ░░░░░░░░ for anyone that is ░░░░░░░░ of domestic violence But ░░░░░░░░ bringing up this issue ░░░░░░░░ what teams should do ░░░░░░░░ players are accused of ░░░░░░░░ violence also points out ░░░░░░░░ fact that we want ░░░░░░░░ NFL to police domestic ░░░░░░░░ in a way that ░░░░░░░░ more extreme right now ░░░░░░░░ we re policing it ░░░░░░░░ our own justice systems ░░░░░░░░ on the ground level ░░░░░░░░ you take this situation ░░░░░░░░ you move it outside ░░░░░░░░ the NFL actually when ░░░░░░░░ look at a lot ░░░░░░░░ cases that involve NFL ░░░░░░░░ it s so clear ░░░░░░░░ weak our justice system ░░░░░░░░ and how few protections ░░░░░░░░ in place for women ░░░░░░░░ outside of the NFL ░░░░░░░░ I think we need ░░░░░░░░ keep that in mind ░░░░░░░░ well But yes I ░░░░░░░░ that any team that ░░░░░░░░ take a stand and ░░░░░░░░ like zero tolerance policy ░░░░░░░░ that s a step ░░░░░░░░ the right direction But ░░░░░░░░ we need to look ░░░░░░░░ the culture and say ░░░░░░░░ are men being raised ░░░░░░░░ this hyper masculinity and ░░░░░░░░ and a lot of ░░░░░░░░ is then taken out ░░░░░░░░ women I think anytime ░░░░░░░░ can get the NFL ░░░░░░░░ use its vast amount ░░░░░░░░ resources we re talking ░░░░░░░░ and millions of dollars ░░░░░░░░ try and change the ░░░░░░░░ before players get to ░░░░░░░░ NFL that s when ░░░░░░░░ re going to be ░░░░░░░░ in the right direction ░░░░░░░░ Yeah You mentioned going ░░░░░░░░ the NFL the Atlantic ░░░░░░░░ Prosecutor has been harshly ░░░░░░░░ this week for his ░░░░░░░░ following watching the Ray ░░░░░░░░ video.”