Ashley Allison Battles Betsy McCaughey on Equity: ‘Just Because You Talk So Much Doesn’t Make You Right’

Allison Well I thought ░░░░░░░░ Supreme Court said affirmative ░░░░░░░░ wasn t allowed so ░░░░░░░░ That s right And ░░░░░░░░ the court said that ░░░░░░░░ I m not sure ░░░░░░░░ re argument is actually ░░░░░░░░ up because that s ░░░░░░░░ the law of the ░░░░░░░░ anymore McCAUGHEY That s ░░░░░░░░ But Kamala Harris bashed ░░░░░░░░ Supreme Court ruling saying ░░░░░░░░ no she doesn t ░░░░░░░░ colorblind society she wants ░░░░░░░░ She believes that if ░░░░░░░░ started in a different ░░░░░░░░ they should be judged ░░░░░░░░ and she wants minorities ░░░░░░░░ women to be advantaged ░░░░░░░░ job applications and other ░░░░░░░░ PHILLIP I don t ░░░░░░░░ to go deep into ░░░░░░░░ don t want to ░░░░░░░░ deep into the DEI ░░░░░░░░ right now NAVARRO Everything ░░░░░░░░ are saying is really ░░░░░░░░ deeply offensive and inaccurate ░░░░░░░░ It s a policy ░░░░░░░░ NAVARRO First of all ░░░░░░░░ don t think that ░░░░░░░░ Harris wants her husband ░░░░░░░░ be disadvantaged her stepson ░░░░░░░░ be disadvantaged What you ░░░░░░░░ saying you are totally ░░░░░░░░ her position on SALAM ░░░░░░░░ might want to look ░░░░░░░░ her record in the ░░░░░░░░ McCAUGHEY Yes you might ░░░░░░░░ to look at her ░░░░░░░░ SALAM If you look ░░░░░░░░ environmental justice for all ░░░░░░░░ you re looking at ░░░░░░░░ up this diversity commission ░░░░░░░░ the CARES Act trying ░░░░░░░░ impose racial preferences for ░░░░░░░░ Federal Reserve and Federal ░░░░░░░░ staffing it s very ░░░░░░░░ this is something where ░░░░░░░░ was differentiated She was ░░░░░░░░ lockstep with Elizabeth Warren ░░░░░░░░ Bernie Sanders but in ░░░░░░░░ one domain race conscious ░░░░░░░░ was a high priority ░░░░░░░░ her By the way ░░░░░░░░ people think that s ░░░░░░░░ But then lets honestly ░░░░░░░░ with what her policy ░░░░░░░░ were and the fact ░░░░░░░░ not everyone feels the ░░░░░░░░ to you do Ana ░░░░░░░░ everyone loves these ideas ░░░░░░░░ That s absolutely perfectly ░░░░░░░░ Not everybody might feel ░░░░░░░░ same way SALAM I ░░░░░░░░ so glad that you ░░░░░░░░ okay with me disagreeing ░░░░░░░░ you That s great ░░░░░░░░ hear NAVARRO Listen I ░░░░░░░░ with me sometimes I ░░░░░░░░ with the position McCAUGHEY ░░░░░░░░ can be a love ░░░░░░░░ here and disagree NAVARRO ░░░░░░░░ but but what Kamala ░░░░░░░░ and folks who want ░░░░░░░░ what they want is ░░░░░░░░ level playing field because ░░░░░░░░ understand McCAUGHEY No it ░░░░░░░░ not what they want ░░░░░░░░ says she wants equal ░░░░░░░░ NAVARRO That s just ░░░░░░░░ s false Allison Let ░░░░░░░░ tell you what I ░░░░░░░░ What I want is ░░░░░░░░ I m not telling ░░░░░░░░ what you want But ░░░░░░░░ women voters don t ░░░░░░░░ that to happen to ░░░░░░░░ husbands and sons Allison ░░░░░░░░ just said no that ░░░░░░░░ not what they want ░░░░░░░░ m a part of ░░░░░░░░ they McCAUGHEY No Allison ░░░░░░░░ what I m saying ░░░░░░░░ McCAUGHEY We said white ░░░░░░░░ Allison No what I ░░░░░░░░ saying right now is ░░░░░░░░ I believe in equity ░░░░░░░░ when I say equity ░░░░░░░░ want everyone to have ░░░░░░░░ fair level playing field ░░░░░░░░ do not want McCAUGHEY ░░░░░░░░ s not the definition ░░░░░░░░ equity Take a look ░░░░░░░░ Kamala Harris Allison If ░░░░░░░░ would let me finish ░░░░░░░░ 2020 campaign ad PHILLIP ░░░░░░░░ s let Ashley Allison ░░░░░░░░ because you talk so ░░░░░░░░ doesn t make you ░░░░░░░░ Okay A conversation is ░░░░░░░░ you listen you actually ░░░░░░░░ what somebody says and ░░░░░░░░ we have a discourse ░░░░░░░░ talking over someone doesn ░░░░░░░░ make your point any ░░░░░░░░ Equity allow we can ░░░░░░░░ we know that there ░░░░░░░░ people who are some ░░░░░░░░ some white poor folks ░░░░░░░░ are more disadvantaged than ░░░░░░░░ people who are black ░░░░░░░░ class We know that ░░░░░░░░ what equity is is ░░░░░░░░ and I will just ░░░░░░░░ white women are the ░░░░░░░░ who have benefited the ░░░░░░░░ from affirmative action so ░░░░░░░░ you re sitting at ░░░░░░░░ chair because somebody thought ░░░░░░░░ deserve to have an ░░░░░░░░ playing field McCAUGHEY I ░░░░░░░░ t agree with that ░░░░░░░░ You don t have ░░░░░░░░ but the facts are ░░░░░░░░ facts Like you don ░░░░░░░░ have to agree with ░░░░░░░░ but numbers are numbers ░░░░░░░░ facts are facts and ░░░░░░░░ do know white women ░░░░░░░░ more from affirmative action ░░░░░░░░ even Ana myself or ░░░░░░░░ or you at this ░░░░░░░░ Equity is that we ░░░░░░░░ an even playing field ░░░░░░░░ want everyone to have ░░░░░░░░ fair shot McCAUGHEY That ░░░░░░░░ an incorrect definition Allison ░░░░░░░░ it s not McCAUGHEY ░░░░░░░░ it is Take a ░░░░░░░░ at Kamala s old ░░░░░░░░ SALAM We can just ░░░░░░░░ Harris legislation We can ░░░░░░░░ specifically at what she ░░░░░░░░ Now you were suggesting ░░░░░░░░ on that a Supreme ░░░░░░░░ decision regarding racial preferences ░░░░░░░░ higher education admissions applies ░░░░░░░░ more broadly If that ░░░░░░░░ the case that s ░░░░░░░░ of all contested but ░░░░░░░░ that s the case ░░░░░░░░ much of what Senator ░░░░░░░░ proposed during her time ░░░░░░░░ the Senate would now ░░░░░░░░ found unconstitutional And again ░░░░░░░░ s very much up ░░░░░░░░ dispute Allison That s ░░░░░░░░ what Project 2025 wants ░░░░░░░░ do.”