CNN’s Miller: Counter-Sniper Report Says that Trump Shooter Was ‘Looking at Us, Looking at Him’

BURNETT Our Chief Law ░░░░░░░░ and Intelligence Analyst John ░░░░░░░░ joins me now And ░░░░░░░░ you have a lot ░░░░░░░░ new information here about ░░░░░░░░ shooter MILLER Erin there ░░░░░░░░ been some developments as ░░░░░░░░ investigation has progressed You ░░░░░░░░ what the investigators are ░░░░░░░░ us is as far ░░░░░░░░ a motive a manifesto ░░░░░░░░ reasoning behind this the ░░░░░░░░ is still a blank ░░░░░░░░ But what they have ░░░░░░░░ is a lot of ░░░░░░░░ background about what happened ░░░░░░░░ day They know that ░░░░░░░░ went to his employer ░░░░░░░░ the nursing home where ░░░░░░░░ works as a dietary ░░░░░░░░ before this and said ░░░░░░░░ need Saturday off I ░░░░░░░░ something important to do ░░░░░░░░ he told his co ░░░░░░░░ I ll see you ░░░░░░░░ Sunday So he changed ░░░░░░░░ days off presumably for ░░░░░░░░ We also understand that ░░░░░░░░ he got to the ░░░░░░░░ where this rally was ░░░░░░░░ held for Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ first thing that puts ░░░░░░░░ on the radar of ░░░░░░░░ people is near the ░░░░░░░░ area where they re ░░░░░░░░ people in he s ░░░░░░░░ in his hand a ░░░░░░░░ finder It s a ░░░░░░░░ that looks like a ░░░░░░░░ pair of binoculars but ░░░░░░░░ s used by shooters ░░░░░░░░ measure the distance when ░░░░░░░░ re setting up a ░░░░░░░░ distance shot Because he ░░░░░░░░ t have a weapon ░░░░░░░░ would not have prevented ░░░░░░░░ to go through security ░░░░░░░░ they did flag What ░░░░░░░░ he have this in ░░░░░░░░ hand for At that ░░░░░░░░ they told people Keep ░░░░░░░░ eye on this guy ░░░░░░░░ then he leaves the ░░░░░░░░ area the staging area ░░░░░░░░ he doesn t turn ░░░░░░░░ again for some time ░░░░░░░░ the crowd says there ░░░░░░░░ a guy crawling up ░░░░░░░░ roof and it appears ░░░░░░░░ has a rifle There ░░░░░░░░ an eerie moment in ░░░░░░░░ Erin where he s ░░░░░░░░ the range finder and ░░░░░░░░ s looking through it ░░░░░░░░ the counter sniper positions ░░░░░░░░ one of the counter ░░░░░░░░ positions is looking at ░░░░░░░░ through the scope At ░░░░░░░░ point there s not ░░░░░░░░ gun in the picture ░░░░░░░░ I understand it but ░░░░░░░░ re saying He s ░░░░░░░░ at us looking at ░░░░░░░░ Then when people alert ░░░░░░░░ police and they try ░░░░░░░░ come up the ladder ░░░░░░░░ get him and he ░░░░░░░░ them with the AR ░░░░░░░░ gun they dive for ░░░░░░░░ and then a moment ░░░░░░░░ he opens fire But ░░░░░░░░ lot of this sounds ░░░░░░░░ spread out The end ░░░░░░░░ it happens very quickly ░░░░░░░░ last piece is the ░░░░░░░░ of the car As ░░░░░░░░ reported last night two ░░░░░░░░ controlled IEDs remote controlled ░░░░░░░░ in the car the ░░░░░░░░ control for those devices ░░░░░░░░ on his person on ░░░░░░░░ roof according to sources ░░░░░░░░ fully loaded magazines with ░░░░░░░░ a hundred rounds a ░░░░░░░░ vest So it raises ░░░░░░░░ question did he expect ░░░░░░░░ escape from this And ░░░░░░░░ so what was all ░░░░░░░░ intended for What was ░░░░░░░░ happen next Questions that ░░░░░░░░ still open in the ░░░░░░░░ of these investigators BURNETT ░░░░░░░░ I mean I know ░░░░░░░░ they say they just ░░░░░░░░ don t have details ░░░░░░░░ motive I mean just ░░░░░░░░ as a layperson I ░░░░░░░░ you know if you ░░░░░░░░ t have a gun ░░░░░░░░ you can go through ░░░░░░░░ a range finder and ░░░░░░░░ being allowed to go ░░░░░░░░ I think is jarring ░░░░░░░░ many people watching that ░░░░░░░░ would have some discretion ░░░░░░░░ say Sorry you can ░░░░░░░░ bring that in there ░░░░░░░░ I will admit just ░░░░░░░░ MILLER That s a ░░░░░░░░ interesting point because this ░░░░░░░░ a prickly issue which ░░░░░░░░ you know this is ░░░░░░░░ a place where there ░░░░░░░░ a lot of Trump ░░░░░░░░ There are a lot ░░░░░░░░ Trump supporters coming to ░░░░░░░░ rallies You may have ░░░░░░░░ to these rallies where ░░░░░░░░ show up wearing camouflage ░░░░░░░░ show up outside the ░░░░░░░░ with weapons This is ░░░░░░░░ a weapon It s ░░░░░░░░ device used by shooters ░░░░░░░░ also by golfers to ░░░░░░░░ these distances And for ░░░░░░░░ people the Secret Service ░░░░░░░░ Division to make a ░░░░░░░░ about you can t ░░░░░░░░ in could actually backfire ░░░░░░░░ the rally organizers and ░░░░░░░░ on So BURNETT Which ░░░░░░░░ So can I ask ░░░░░░░░ one other thing John ░░░░░░░░ think that s and ░░░░░░░░ s important the context ░░░░░░░░ you just gave about ░░░░░░░░ would be there the ░░░░░░░░ you d be sending ░░░░░░░░ others But then this ░░░░░░░░ that he goes through ░░░░░░░░ screening and he has ░░░░░░░░ range finder but obviously ░░░░░░░░ ends up with the ░░░░░░░░ which he uses on ░░░░░░░░ of the roof So ░░░░░░░░ does he get the ░░░░░░░░ and where MILLER So ░░░░░░░░ he leaves that secure ░░░░░░░░ and appears to depart ░░░░░░░░ goes outside the inner ░░░░░░░░ outside the outer perimeter ░░░░░░░░ that third layer which ░░░░░░░░ that you know that ░░░░░░░░ field and a half ░░░░░░░░ I mean the working ░░░░░░░░ is he goes to ░░░░░░░░ car he retrieves the ░░░░░░░░ I don t know ░░░░░░░░ he carries it or ░░░░░░░░ it and then moves ░░░░░░░░ that building And there ░░░░░░░░ a long time BURNETT ░░░░░░░░ wait can I just ░░░░░░░░ m sorry to interrupt ░░░░░░░░ I m trying to ░░░░░░░░ and maybe it is ░░░░░░░░ at this time but ░░░░░░░░ you clear security and ░░░░░░░░ metal detectors you can ░░░░░░░░ back all the way ░░░░░░░░ your car to get ░░░░░░░░ and not go back ░░░░░░░░ the metal detectors MILLER ░░░░░░░░ to be clear when ░░░░░░░░ was in a secure ░░░░░░░░ with the range finder ░░░░░░░░ was nothing that would ░░░░░░░░ stopped him from clearing ░░░░░░░░ He leaves that area ░░░░░░░░ he goes to get ░░░░░░░░ weapon presumably but then ░░░░░░░░ doesn t go back ░░░░░░░░ the secure area He ░░░░░░░░ way outside the perimeter ░░░░░░░░ they re doing security ░░░░░░░░ In fact the people ░░░░░░░░ spot him are among ░░░░░░░░ people who couldn t ░░░░░░░░ into the rally or ░░░░░░░░ t go through security ░░░░░░░░ are outside the wall ░░░░░░░░ it s happening and ░░░░░░░░ in the direction because ░░░░░░░░ can t see it ░░░░░░░░ there but you can ░░░░░░░░ it You can see ░░░░░░░░ if you re on ░░░░░░░░ roof BURNETT Right All ░░░░░░░░ I mean just crucial ░░░░░░░░ incredible details here especially ░░░░░░░░ that scope in through ░░░░░░░░ John Miller thank you ░░░░░░░░ much breaking all of ░░░░░░░░ new details for us ░░░░░░░░ back to you.”