RUSH TRANSCRIPT And Los ░░░░░░░░ And this is CNN ░░░░░░░░ and I 2024 lead ░░░░░░░░ her President Joe Biden ░░░░░░░░ step down after his ░░░░░░░░ performance continue to pile ░░░░░░░░ with just 127 days ░░░░░░░░ before the election including ░░░░░░░░ my next guest who ░░░░░░░░ in the New Yorker ░░░░░░░░ for the president to ░░░░░░░░ on remaining the democratic ░░░░░░░░ would be enacted not ░░░░░░░░ of self delusion but ░░░░░░░░ national endangerment and New ░░░░░░░░ editor David rangnick joins ░░░░░░░░ now David thanks so ░░░░░░░░ for joining us So ░░░░░░░░ your column in your ░░░░░░░░ you write on President ░░░░░░░░ refusing to step down ░░░░░░░░ to ignore the inevitability ░░░░░░░░ time and aging doesn ░░░░░░░░ matter nearly risk his ░░░░░░░░ It risks the election ░░░░░░░░ most important puts in ░░░░░░░░ the very issues and ░░░░░░░░ that Biden has framed ░░░░░░░░ central to his presidency ░░░░░░░░ essential to the future ░░░░░░░░ there are a number ░░░░░░░░ high profile editorial boards ░░░░░░░░ calmness to have called ░░░░░░░░ Biden to step down ░░░░░░░░ does seem as though ░░░░░░░░ the top democratic officials ░░░░░░░░ least publicly are rallying ░░░░░░░░ the president to stay ░░░░░░░░ the race despite what ░░░░░░░░ all saw Thursday night ░░░░░░░░ the polling quite frankly ░░░░░░░░ s been pretty clear ░░░░░░░░ more than a year ░░░░░░░░ two that the voters ░░░░░░░░ another option Why such ░░░░░░░░ disconnect your thing well ░░░░░░░░ m I m coming ░░░░░░░░ you from Tel Aviv ░░░░░░░░ m not in Washington ░░░░░░░░ the thick of it ░░░░░░░░ it s I ve ░░░░░░░░ written anything that felt ░░░░░░░░ very few things that ░░░░░░░░ so hard to write ░░░░░░░░ a human level I ░░░░░░░░ Joe Biden is a ░░░░░░░░ decent man I think ░░░░░░░░ s been a in ░░░░░░░░ ways very effective president ░░░░░░░░ the time has been ░░░░░░░░ it is for human ░░░░░░░░ And that s very ░░░░░░░░ for him to accept ░░░░░░░░ he s in the ░░░░░░░░ of trying to fend ░░░░░░░░ the return to the ░░░░░░░░ House of someone who ░░░░░░░░ so many ways is ░░░░░░░░ to racist lies and ░░░░░░░░ the things that we ░░░░░░░░ about Donald Trump I ░░░░░░░░ understand why I received ░░░░░░░░ many notes from readers ░░░░░░░░ were so anxious about ░░░░░░░░ Quite frankly the truth ░░░░░░░░ what was in front ░░░░░░░░ our eyes at this ░░░░░░░░ But it is an ░░░░░░░░ set of images It ░░░░░░░░ t just one stumble ░░░░░░░░ was a pretty terrible ░░░░░░░░ and it gave the ░░░░░░░░ and I think it ░░░░░░░░ the reality that Joe ░░░░░░░░ is you know he ░░░░░░░░ not superman He s ░░░░░░░░ he even a young ░░░░░░░░ one And he s ░░░░░░░░ to be president until ░░░░░░░░ s 86 And that ░░░░░░░░ dangerous And I think ░░░░░░░░ s going to lose ░░░░░░░░ lot in the coming ░░░░░░░░ and months if he ░░░░░░░░ in and that risks ░░░░░░░░ very terrible outcome the ░░░░░░░░ after the debate President ░░░░░░░░ held a rally in ░░░░░░░░ Carolina Here s just ░░░░░░░░ of what he said ░░░░░░░░ that rally I don ░░░░░░░░ take to rally the ░░░░░░░░ to stand up against ░░░░░░░░ and defend free to ░░░░░░░░ yield and I don ░░░░░░░░ take to keep the ░░░░░░░░ safe and free for ░░░░░░░░ years ahead Folks I ░░░░░░░░ you my word as ░░░░░░░░ Biden I would not ░░░░░░░░ running again if I ░░░░░░░░ t believe with all ░░░░░░░░ heart and soul I ░░░░░░░░ do this job because ░░░░░░░░ frankly thanks Are two ░░░░░░░░ obviously that was in ░░░░░░░░ middle the de not ░░░░░░░░ night He was reading ░░░░░░░░ a teleprompter He was ░░░░░░░░ front of a an ░░░░░░░░ crowd I guess the ░░░░░░░░ I have is do ░░░░░░░░ think if he s ░░░░░░░░ up to the job ░░░░░░░░ running for president again ░░░░░░░░ winning again do you ░░░░░░░░ he s currently up ░░░░░░░░ the job look that ░░░░░░░░ a very good question ░░░░░░░░ I don t know ░░░░░░░░ every minute of the ░░░░░░░░ and he s surrounded ░░░░░░░░ vast staff of a ░░░░░░░░ competent people better than ░░░░░░░░ and I don t ░░░░░░░░ him to step down ░░░░░░░░ the president and or ░░░░░░░░ the 25th amendment invoked ░░░░░░░░ he has this very ░░░░░░░░ difficult decision to make ░░░░░░░░ we re talking about ░░░░░░░░ just the next few ░░░░░░░░ we re talking about ░░░░░░░░ next four years and ░░░░░░░░ the world is in ░░░░░░░░ shape in so many ░░░░░░░░ whether it s climate ░░░░░░░░ the Middle East Ukraine ░░░░░░░░ Russia we could go ░░░░░░░░ and on and the ░░░░░░░░ is so malevolent I ░░░░░░░░ understand the stakes and ░░░░░░░░ think I know he ░░░░░░░░ and it s on ░░░░░░░░ most human almost shakespearean ░░░░░░░░ he has to face ░░░░░░░░ profound profound decision And ░░░░░░░░ understand the resistance to ░░░░░░░░ And I think it ░░░░░░░░ going to come down ░░░░░░░░ his family and a ░░░░░░░░ small circle of people ░░░░░░░░ don t think the ░░░░░░░░ that somebody wrote a ░░░░░░░░ in the New Yorker ░░░░░░░░ The New York Times ░░░░░░░░ the Washington Post is ░░░░░░░░ be decisive I think ░░░░░░░░ ll have to do ░░░░░░░░ the family Is advisers ░░░░░░░░ also whether the poll ░░░░░░░░ is plummet and the ░░░░░░░░ subs coming in And ░░░░░░░░ think there s a ░░░░░░░░ of people who are ░░░░░░░░ anxious out there and ░░░░░░░░ is such a profound ░░░░░░░░ in American history that ░░░░░░░░ deserves reconsideration I say ░░░░░░░░ would no joy no ░░░░░░░░ but I just have ░░░░░░░░ decision that he has ░░░░░░░░ make and I hope ░░░░░░░░ makes the right one ░░░░░░░░ talked about how the ░░░░░░░░ is in crisis You ░░░░░░░░ currently in Tel Aviv ░░░░░░░░ Israel that s a ░░░░░░░░ of the world where ░░░░░░░░ s a lot of ░░░░░░░░ both what s going ░░░░░░░░ in Gaza with the ░░░░░░░░ operation against Hamas with ░░░░░░░░ hostages still being held ░░░░░░░░ also in the way ░░░░░░░░ s bank we re ░░░░░░░░ lot of Israeli settlers ░░░░░░░░ committing horrible acts of ░░░░░░░░ against innocent Palestinians Tell ░░░░░░░░ about the West Bank ░░░░░░░░ you just visited well ░░░░░░░░ was in the West ░░░░░░░░ yesterday and there is ░░░░░░░░ you re absolutely right ░░░░░░░░ lot of settler violence ░░░░░░░░ I think the general ░░░░░░░░ here now is in ░░░░░░░░ next couple of weeks ░░░░░░░░ maybe before it becomes ░░░░░░░░ speak in Washington if ░░░░░░░░ s still comes off ░░░░░░░░ will rightly or wrongly ░░░░░░░░ this has been a ░░░░░░░░ a disaster but rightly ░░░░░░░░ wrongly he will say ░░░░░░░░ he s come to ░░░░░░░░ end of this phase ░░░░░░░░ the war whether again ░░░░░░░░ don t mean rightly ░░░░░░░░ with me truthfully or ░░░░░░░░ And it will start ░░░░░░░░ this less as a ░░░░░░░░ war as the management ░░░░░░░░ an insurgency he will ░░░░░░░░ that Hamas in Gaza ░░░░░░░░ now a defeated army ░░░░░░░░ remains dangerous and insurgency ░░░░░░░░ from outside Gaza the ░░░░░░░░ army will continue to ░░░░░░░░ raids and try to ░░░░░░░░ the situation that does ░░░░░░░░ solve the problem at ░░░░░░░░ And the problem is ░░░░░░░░ and also the problem ░░░░░░░░ to the fact that ░░░░░░░░ is an occupation that ░░░░░░░░ been going on for ░░░░░░░░ than a half a ░░░░░░░░ and it is a ░░░░░░░░ that cannot be avoided ░░░░░░░░ evaded I totally understand ░░░░░░░░ understand the grief and ░░░░░░░░ in Israel as well ░░░░░░░░ the grief and trauma ░░░░░░░░ the Palestinian people have ░░░░░░░░ two such a tremendous ░░░░░░░░ But until there is ░░░░░░░░ profound forward movement on ░░░░░░░░ Palestinian question until the ░░░░░░░░ people have some sense ░░░░░░░░ there is a new ░░░░░░░░ a better reality a ░░░░░░░░ just reality is ahead ░░░░░░░░ m afraid that this ░░░░░░░░ terrible ongoing situation will ░░░░░░░░ on in one way ░░░░░░░░ another And it will ░░░░░░░░ both peoples These Israeli ░░░░░░░░ situation is now awful ░░░░░░░░ the cabinet is filled ░░░░░░░░ people who are annexation ░░░░░░░░ the annexation is if ░░░░░░░░ come down from the ░░░░░░░░ of the West Bank ░░░░░░░░ they re in the ░░░░░░░░ room That s the ░░░░░░░░ And it controls politics ░░░░░░░░ And until that fever ░░░░░░░░ broken in Israeli life ░░░░░░░░ that there will be ░░░░░░░░ healing And this is ░░░░░░░░ to just take a ░░░░░░░░ time to reverse David ░░░░░░░░ sobering and I appreciate ░░░░░░░░ being with us today ░░░░░░░░ you so much Pleasure ░░░░░░░░ you Jake in the ░░░░░░░░ hour or former President ░░░░░░░░ called today s Supreme ░░░░░░░░ decision quote brilliantly written ░░░░░░░░ wise unquote that opinion ░░░░░░░░ him limited immunity from ░░░░░░░░ putian what that means ░░░░░░░░ one of the criminal