McCaskill: VP Harris or Gavin Newsom Should Be at the Top of the Dem Ticket After Tonight

MADDOW All right joining ░░░░░░░░ now from the debate ░░░░░░░░ room in Atlanta is ░░░░░░░░ beloved pal former U ░░░░░░░░ Senator Claire McCaskill of ░░░░░░░░ also kan NBC political ░░░░░░░░ Claire dying to know ░░░░░░░░ you think about how ░░░░░░░░ went tonight and what ░░░░░░░░ ve been hearing since ░░░░░░░░ Well first the easy ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump is a ░░░░░░░░ a flawed character mean ░░░░░░░░ jerk very unlikable and ░░░░░░░░ was obvious tonight Now ░░░░░░░░ hard and heartbreaking part ░░░░░░░░ have been a surrogate ░░░░░░░░ some presidential candidates in ░░░░░░░░ time I know what ░░░░░░░░ job is after a ░░░░░░░░ of a surrogate I ░░░░░░░░ never wanted to be ░░░░░░░░ surrogate more than I ░░░░░░░░ right now because when ░░░░░░░░ are a surrogate you ░░░░░░░░ to focus on the ░░░░░░░░ But I have said ░░░░░░░░ clearly and very plainly ░░░░░░░░ this network and my ░░░░░░░░ now is to be ░░░░░░░░ honest Joe Biden had ░░░░░░░░ thing he had to ░░░░░░░░ tonight and he didn ░░░░░░░░ do it He had ░░░░░░░░ thing he had to ░░░░░░░░ and that was reassure ░░░░░░░░ that he was up ░░░░░░░░ the job at his ░░░░░░░░ and he failed at ░░░░░░░░ tonight Now does that ░░░░░░░░ that my phone blowing ░░░░░░░░ with senators and campaign ░░░░░░░░ and donors big donors ░░░░░░░░ all over the country ░░░░░░░░ that mean that Joe ░░░░░░░░ is not the candidate ░░░░░░░░ don t know that ░░░░░░░░ think we will know ░░░░░░░░ lot more in a ░░░░░░░░ weeks how this plays ░░░░░░░░ how the polling plays ░░░░░░░░ but I think a ░░░░░░░░ of things are going ░░░░░░░░ right now I think ░░░░░░░░ m not the only ░░░░░░░░ whose heart is breaking ░░░░░░░░ now There s a ░░░░░░░░ of people who watched ░░░░░░░░ tonight and felt terribly ░░░░░░░░ Joe Biden You know ░░░░░░░░ have to ask how ░░░░░░░░ we get here How ░░░░░░░░ we get to the ░░░░░░░░ that we are spending ░░░░░░░░ whole lot of time ░░░░░░░░ about the vice president ░░░░░░░░ instead of talking about ░░░░░░░░ president And I don ░░░░░░░░ know how the rest ░░░░░░░░ this story is written ░░░░░░░░ don t know if ░░░░░░░░ can be done to ░░░░░░░░ this they might And ░░░░░░░░ is so terrible that ░░░░░░░░ might heal itself but ░░░░░░░░ on what I m ░░░░░░░░ from a lot of ░░░░░░░░ and some of them ░░░░░░░░ people that are in ░░░░░░░░ elected offices in this ░░░░░░░░ and you might guess ░░░░░░░░ they serve there is ░░░░░░░░ lot more than hand ░░░░░░░░ tonight I do think ░░░░░░░░ feel that we are ░░░░░░░░ a crisis MADDOW Claire ░░░░░░░░ want to talk to ░░░░░░░░ about this in very ░░░░░░░░ and bolts terms Given ░░░░░░░░ you are describing the ░░░░░░░░ of reaction that you ░░░░░░░░ describing among people in ░░░░░░░░ kinds of positions that ░░░░░░░░ are describing or at ░░░░░░░░ alluding to what can ░░░░░░░░ done What do you ░░░░░░░░ think should be done ░░░░░░░░ Well I think listen ░░░░░░░░ could be a situation ░░░░░░░░ everyone talks it out ░░░░░░░░ the next few days ░░░░░░░░ do think that this ░░░░░░░░ a time that Ted ░░░░░░░░ and Ricchetti and Donilon ░░░░░░░░ Ron Klain are going ░░░░░░░░ have to have a ░░░░░░░░ to heart with the ░░░░░░░░ about his ability to ░░░░░░░░ strength And listen nobody ░░░░░░░░ a bigger fan of ░░░░░░░░ Harris than I am ░░░░░░░░ you know Gavin Newsom ░░░░░░░░ a remarkable job tonight ░░░░░░░░ a surrogate And what ░░░░░░░░ said stuff I disagree ░░░░░░░░ anything they re saying ░░░░░░░░ those two people are ░░░░░░░░ to a whole lot ░░░░░░░░ Americans that are paying ░░░░░░░░ how come they re ░░░░░░░░ running How come the ░░░░░░░░ Party doesn t have ░░░░░░░░ at the top of ░░░░░░░░ ticket instead of using ░░░░░░░░ to shore up what ░░░░░░░░ become after tonight some ░░░░░░░░ glaring weaknesses in our ░░░░░░░░ MADDOW But specifically though ░░░░░░░░ that we are 130 ░░░░░░░░ out and the Democratic ░░░░░░░░ is very very very ░░░░░░░░ and President Biden has ░░░░░░░░ confronted with these kinds ░░░░░░░░ questions from the very ░░░░░░░░ of this campaign actually ░░░░░░░░ before the beginning of ░░░░░░░░ campaign As soon as ░░░░░░░░ was sworn in people ░░░░░░░░ talking to him about ░░░░░░░░ now you won t ░░░░░░░░ again and he has ░░░░░░░░ from that he is ░░░░░░░░ guy and if he ░░░░░░░░ not going to jump ░░░░░░░░ s going to push ░░░░░░░░ The type of crisis ░░░░░░░░ your words that you ░░░░░░░░ describing has to have ░░░░░░░░ resolution and if the ░░░░░░░░ is not going to ░░░░░░░░ that President Biden is ░░░░░░░░ to leave the ticket ░░░░░░░░ else can be done ░░░░░░░░ else can be changed ░░░░░░░░ the campaign Are you ░░░░░░░░ the only solution is ░░░░░░░░ take him off the ░░░░░░░░ McCaskill No I don ░░░░░░░░ know honestly what the ░░░░░░░░ is tonight I know ░░░░░░░░ this felt tonight It ░░░░░░░░ like a gut punch ░░░░░░░░ most people in this ░░░░░░░░ who are paying close ░░░░░░░░ and know how dangerous ░░░░░░░░ Trump is to all ░░░░░░░░ values that we hold ░░░░░░░░ And so I think ░░░░░░░░ will take a couple ░░░░░░░░ days for people to ░░░░░░░░ from the gut punch ░░░░░░░░ there will be leaders ░░░░░░░░ have the ability to ░░░░░░░░ to the president I ░░░░░░░░ the president s family ░░░░░░░░ get involved if it ░░░░░░░░ got to that point ░░░░░░░░ may be that you ░░░░░░░░ repair this damage Maybe ░░░░░░░░ can come out and ░░░░░░░░ more vigor and show ░░░░░░░░ ability to really stay ░░░░░░░░ track But you know ░░░░░░░░ were some moments tonight ░░░░░░░░ all of us were ░░░░░░░░ our breath and that ░░░░░░░░ not the kind of ░░░░░░░░ you want to happen ░░░░░░░░ days out from an ░░░░░░░░ when you ve got ░░░░░░░░ Trump on the other ░░░░░░░░ of the equation MADDOW ░░░░░░░░ Senator Claire McCaskill very ░░░░░░░░ to have you with ░░░░░░░░ tonight Thank you my ░░░░░░░░ Keep talking to people ░░░░░░░░ letting us know what ░░░░░░░░ are hearing from inside ░░░░░░░░ politics and those people ░░░░░░░░ high elected office who ░░░░░░░░ will never ask you ░░░░░░░░ name of Much appreciated ░░░░░░░░ friend Steph Ruhle is ░░░░░░░░ Steph I know you ░░░░░░░░ been talking to people ░░░░░░░░ well RUHLE I ve ░░░░░░░░ talking to current Democratic ░░░░░░░░ former lawmakers but more ░░░░░░░░ anything donors and they ░░░░░░░░ really frustrated tonight They ░░░░░░░░ upset.”