Former Conservative MP Louise Mensch: ‘I Hope [Julian Assange’s] Life Is Ruined’

Morgan bring in judge ░░░░░░░░ wants to jump in ░░░░░░░░ I ll come to ░░░░░░░░ Judge NAPOLITANO I suggest ░░░░░░░░ we re losing sight ░░░░░░░░ the issue here The ░░░░░░░░ here is the freedom ░░░░░░░░ speech The issue here ░░░░░░░░ the right of the ░░░░░░░░ to know The issue ░░░░░░░░ not that a spy ░░░░░░░░ a chance working for ░░░░░░░░ U S that his ░░░░░░░░ is going to be ░░░░░░░░ Of course he did ░░░░░░░░ voluntarily made that choice ░░░░░░░░ is no reason to ░░░░░░░░ someone for exposing it ░░░░░░░░ s not me That ░░░░░░░░ the Supreme Court of ░░░░░░░░ United States and the ░░░░░░░░ Papers case followed universally ░░░░░░░░ by the government when ░░░░░░░░ since it came down ░░░░░░░░ All right Louise MENSCH ░░░░░░░░ don t know how ░░░░░░░░ can have it two ░░░░░░░░ He can say on ░░░░░░░░ one hand yes he ░░░░░░░░ have redacted those names ░░░░░░░░ it s dangerous and ░░░░░░░░ say on the other ░░░░░░░░ it s OK guys ░░░░░░░░ although he didn t ░░░░░░░░ them in any way ░░░░░░░░ nothing bad happened to ░░░░░░░░ these people and they ░░░░░░░░ totally fine Isn t ░░░░░░░░ a remarkable coincidence But ░░░░░░░░ have to go back ░░░░░░░░ what the United States ░░░░░░░░ actually charged Assange with ░░░░░░░░ charged Assange with conspiracy ░░░░░░░░ help release this material ░░░░░░░░ he pled guilty to ░░░░░░░░ At the end of ░░░░░░░░ day the charge only ░░░░░░░░ carried a five year ░░░░░░░░ I am delighted that ░░░░░░░░ a very wicked man ░░░░░░░░ criminal a felon a ░░░░░░░░ of the Espionage Act ░░░░░░░░ served his sentence in ░░░░░░░░ of the darkest holes ░░░░░░░░ Britain Morgan Amen Wow ░░░░░░░░ I hope he hated ░░░░░░░░ single minute of it ░░░░░░░░ hope he did test ░░░░░░░░ and I hope his ░░░░░░░░ is ruined But this ░░░░░░░░ a minor offense I ░░░░░░░░ much hope he ll ░░░░░░░░ charged with much more ░░░░░░░░ offenses in the future ░░░░░░░░ Wow Did you feel ░░░░░░░░ the analogy I gave ░░░░░░░░ you feel then that ░░░░░░░░ Lewis because it was ░░░░░░░░ of The Telegraph when ░░░░░░░░ published stolen information about ░░░░░░░░ of which used to ░░░░░░░░ one and you weren ░░░░░░░░ involved in that I ░░░░░░░░ that but a lot ░░░░░░░░ your colleagues were and ░░░░░░░░ for fiddling their expenses ░░░░░░░░ you feel that they ░░░░░░░░ editor should rot in ░░░░░░░░ or what s the ░░░░░░░░ on principle Oh we ░░░░░░░░ in the glorious situation ░░░░░░░░ we ll be able ░░░░░░░░ see you but not ░░░░░░░░ you which is kind ░░░░░░░░ my kind of my ░░░░░░░░ You might be back ░░░░░░░░ on Are you back ░░░░░░░░ I am back You ░░░░░░░░ get it really quickly ░░░░░░░░ ll come back crosstalk ░░░░░░░░ We ve got we ░░░░░░░░ got you So just ░░░░░░░░ the difference in principle ░░░░░░░░ the editor of The ░░░░░░░░ publishing MPs expenses and ░░░░░░░░ Assange did MENSCH The ░░░░░░░░ in principles the editor ░░░░░░░░ The Telegraph didn t ░░░░░░░░ anybody hack that document ░░░░░░░░ t conspire to produce ░░░░░░░░ This wasn t just ░░░░░░░░ crosstalk Morgan But he ░░░░░░░░ it having paid well ░░░░░░░░ on he paid a ░░░░░░░░ figures some hang on ░░░░░░░░ paid a six hang ░░░░░░░░ you paid a six ░░░░░░░░ sum for the stolen ░░░░░░░░ knowing it had been ░░░░░░░░ MENSCH Is that a ░░░░░░░░ I don t think ░░░░░░░░ is He was never ░░░░░░░░ with anything under British ░░░░░░░░ Morgan Obviously not for ░░░░░░░░ But if Assange Assange ░░░░░░░░ t pay Chelsea Manning ░░░░░░░░ he Maybe he did ░░░░░░░░ But he helps he ░░░░░░░░ her do it and ░░░░░░░░ admits that he helps ░░░░░░░░ do it Morgan So ░░░░░░░░ you pay for stolen ░░░░░░░░ that s fine But ░░░░░░░░ you don t pay ░░░░░░░░ it you should rot ░░░░░░░░ jail forever MENSCH We ░░░░░░░░ established that it s ░░░░░░░░ to publish bad information ░░░░░░░░ encourage governments even if ░░░░░░░░ if you give money ░░░░░░░░ it So what You ░░░░░░░░ money to a journalist ░░░░░░░░ writing a piece Assange ░░░░░░░░ t crosstalk Morgan No ░░░░░░░░ m just no I ░░░░░░░░ trying to get to ░░░░░░░░ m trying to get ░░░░░░░░ where OK crosstalk MENSCH ░░░░░░░░ wasn t pleading guilty ░░░░░░░░ publishing Assange was pleading ░░░░░░░░ for crosstalk Morgan I ░░░░░░░░ trying to get to ░░░░░░░░ hang on I m ░░░░░░░░ to get I m ░░░░░░░░ to get crosstalk MENSCH ░░░░░░░░ s what he s ░░░░░░░░ guilty to today Morgan ░░░░░░░░ understand.”